Wolf lookalike breeders Controversial

Thanks Navajo, don't think I'll go on and ask though, do you have a copy of a hip score of yours or your dogs parentage ?

If they had one or two of each breed and only bred the odd few litters a year then no. But if they breed lots of litters and have lots of each dog then yes i think they are. The line has to be drawn somewhere and thats it for me.

Wonder how many paid staff Andre has? Maybe these people who have visited her kennels could let us know.

Seriously kcjack, why not contact her yourself and ask all your qestions directly, instead of relying on 3rd parties? I don't understand why you won't :?

The thing that worries me is the labradoodles. It seems odd for someone who is specialising in breeding wolf dogs to also breed them. I just don't understand it.

I have contacted Andre before she wasnt forthcoming with info.

i was hoping as you disapeared for a while that you were actually phoning shoshone.
you can ask her your next question while your there.

I agree its a little odd, normally a breeder would breed a type of dog such as gundogs or terriers or at least own breeds that go together such as luchers and terrier as they are both good together. The only things wolf dogs and labradoodles have in common is the amount they go for and that they are both in fashion at the min. Seems like these are the breeds to cash in on at the moment . .

You have hit the nail right on the head there Razcox.

posssibly could be something to do with the way you ask questions and the reason behind them.

Well as I have issues and you know her so well can you ask for us?

Exactley that! I would not want a wolf temperanment dog, but I do want a wolf looking dog! Why? becuse its personal choice, Some people like beer, some people like wine. As I said I love GSD's "the kind you have!" but not the broken back show dogs that struggle to walk.

Regards the other comments by L13 your view is your view, My view on things is my view on things. so we disagree. I have no problem with that ;-) Im sure you will pass judement on may other people from your own stand point.

Also the breed standard for GSD is fair commment, It makes hem look like healthy dogs, so why breed them with low back ends then? You know the ones that they show.

Kind regards

who is us, are there more than one of you kcjack.

IMO, No, as you say they are a top show kennel, they must be producing top notch dogs, winning in the show ring, all the dogs are terriers, they clearly are good at what they do, they are not producing x breeds.

but they are still farming dogs.

how many litters do they produce? do they have homes lined up?

Which system is "AA" scoring Banji? I cant find reference to it at all.


A1 is excellent (FCI Europe) and BVA equivilent 0-4. (not 0:0)
A2 is good, as far as I am aware there is no "AA" if thats the case why are breeders quoting it?

Very good BD... ;-)

OFA (USA) E ~ G ~ F ~ B ~ M ~ Mod ~ S

FCI (European) A-1 ~ A-2 ~ B-1 ~ B-2 ~ C ~ D ~ E

BVA (UK/Australia) 0-4 (no > 3/hip) ~ 5-10 (no > 6/hip) ~ 11-18 ~ 19-25 ~ 26-35 ~ 36-50 ~ 51-106

SV (Germany) Normal ~ Normal ~ Normal ~ Fast Normal ~ Noch Zugelassen ~ Mittlere ~ Schwere

Yes thats what I though, not very good quoting unrecognised hip grades is it!

Probably to mis-lead the general british public-due to the fact many british people associate 'AA' as good due 'A*s' etc in education- and many unassuming people will just see that and not ask about it.