White GSD Breeders, Essex area General Chat

That sums it up very well but one very significant point is the reason for the incindence of white in the two breeds, GSD and Boxer, is that in the Boxer, white is an unavoidable byproduct of breeding for flashily marked reds or brindles.

In the GSD, the 'white' gene has a high incidence because of selective breeding for the colour. This gene is in fact a paler version of the one that makes breeds like Labradors and Golden Retrievers yellow.

hiya thanks for all the replys, i didnt even know i had any!

yes to everyone who said there look out for me! thanks! we really do want a White/cream gsd long coat, then hopefully in a couple of years a northen inuit!

heres some info i found on the white GSD website!

FACT

Q: Is the White German Shepherd an albino?

A: The White German Shepherd is NOT an albino.
Albinos have no pigmentation where the White German Shepherd has black pigmentation on its nose, eye rims, paws, and around its mouth.



Q: Does The White German Shepherd have a lot of health problems?

A: The White German Shepherd does not have anymore health problems than its coloured counterparts.
In most cases they are healthier because White breeders do not breed for over angulations (as seen frequently in the coloured dogs).



Q: Ahh but White German Shepherds have bad temperaments.

A: The White German Shepherd DOES NOT have a bad temperament (no more than their coloured counterparts).



Q: The White German Shepherd is not recognized by the KC.

A: The White German Shepherd can indeed be registered in this country by the KC with the title German Shepherd Dog (Alsatian) but it is not recognized in the show ring due to the fact the in 1968 The German Shepherd Dog Club of America made the White coat colour a disqualifying fault in Conformation.

The White German Shepherd is indeed recognized by the AKC.
They are registered as German Shepherd Dogs colour White.

They can be shown in The White German Shepherd Dog Club International, and The American White Shepherd Association, to name but a few.



Q: The White German Shepherds are difficult to train.

A: The difference lies in the individual animal, not the coat colour.

The White German Shepherds are used in sectors such as the police, the armed forces, and security.

They have even broken out into stardom and have been used in films and videos.



THE REIGN OF VON STEPHANITZ

When Max von Stephanitz, (recognized as the father of the breed), began a crusade in 1889 to standardize the Shepherd. In doing so, he culled the litters to achieve the colour he desired - the black-and-tan Shepherd. Although white Shepherds were present, they found disfavour with von Stephanitz.

Thus, the opinion of one man quite possibly shaped the future of the German Shepherd Dog.

Everything you have found is true, the health, construction and temperament is down to the breeding not the colour. Only trouble with 'white' GSD's is their breeding, most people bred two dogs together looking to breed the best construction, health and temperament they can, the people breeding for white colour are breeding for white colour. Having said that there are some very badly bred GSD’s and other breed about too, you have to look to for a reliable breeder who breeds for health and construction with the colour being a secondary concern, ask for the hip, elbow and other (required for breed) test certificates and at least you will know you have done the best you can to buy a healthy pup from a breeder who cares, about the breed first and the colour and or money second.

I do know of a very good breeder but unfortunatly she is not in your area! However if you want a strong straight back hipscored healthy GSD don't you think it may be worth traveling?
If you are interested in looking at there kennels just Private message me and i will give you details, i bought my Northern Inuit from this breeder as she breeds both Ni's & GSD's. She also breeds the GSD's for the local police force as they to like straight backs if poss!

My Mum's last GSD wasn't from a bonifide breeder, but someone who was only interested in the pups health and well being.


Interesting ....why would those that have only a 'one off litter produce healthier better quality dogs than those that are experienced breeders ? the mere fact that many of this type of breeder own both the sire and the dam usually means that they have not though long and hard about the genetic compatability of the dogs ...just that they are 'nice' dogs with 'nice' temperaments and their vet says they are healthy - so no need to test for HD/Cataracts or Haemophllia ...also how would anyone know the genetic health status of their dog's 'line' unless they had hip/eyescored several generations of the pups they had produced ? ....sorry I would go to an experienced breeder everytime ...one reccomended by the breed club and has years of dedicated breeding behind them !

what a beautifull dog,i knew someone,who bred white german shepards,as well as boxers,for the money not the love of the breed,he has 2 and he bought them as pups locked them up and just bred from them he didnt even know how many pups he had till weaning as they are so wicked he couldnt get near him,he has the dog warden in his back pocket and no-one will touch him,hes a b.......and even though hes been reported theres nothing we can do xx