What other wolf crosses have their been Discussions

THIS IS THE USUAL SUSPECTS WOLFDOG OWNERS POLICE

We are writing to make you aware of the 4 new statutes regarding debate here on Dogsey:

1) No wolfdog (or cross) owner may offer any opinion of any kind on their chosen breed(s) unless their dog is over 30 years old

2) No wolfdog (or cross) owner may offer a positive opinion on their dog/breeder/ownership of any kind.

3) With regards debate the words "special", "sensitive" and "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious" are banned.

4) All wolfdog owners must accept that the only way to gain knowledge of the breed, breeders and owners is never to meet them.


The owner "Batmandy" is on no account to be complimented on the excellent breeding, training and talent she has in her dogs. These acheivements in Search and Rescue are of great inconvienience to the doctrine!

Infact Batmandy you are hereby banned from debate!

Good luck with that

BTW.....I am not sure wolf crosses are legal now.....:?

That is very unfair -

I for one have mentioned on her thread congratulating her....it seems this is a two sided coin.

At NO point has anyone said you cannot call these dogs special.....it is the implication that - as people who choose not to have this breed or cross we have no concept of the unique bond that an owner can develop with the right dog, whatever breed. Which again - was stated very clearly by an owner of these dogs earlier in the thread....I do not believe they responded to any of my replys to those posts....

Bad breeding practice is wrong...FULL STOP! The excuse that has been mentioned in other posts and once on here...it was done in the past...why on earth does that make it right now! If this was happening with any pedigree dog or other cross people would react the same way...in fact they do and did recently on a Doodle thread.

I understand you may be trying to lighten the mood - but you are becoming guilty of the same sweeping statments as some on here have mentioned in regards to yourselves....

Did you miss the

nope..I must have missed that too

F3 and less are legal Tassle. Any higher wolf content than that, you need a DWD licence.

Sadly many people can't commit to any breed of dog. Looking round the net tonight I could take my pick of rescue CWD crosses or NI types.

The most reliable of people can give up on any dog for a myriad of reasons. This 'breed' or type won't be exempt from that.It is happening already and it will undoubtably get worse.

Interestingly it is easier to find them than to find Gordon Setters, rescues or pups..

rune (who also loves Gordons)

No, I just treated it with the concept it deserved by ignoring it

See my reply to Tassle re the wolf content legality issue.

Exactly....so Wolf crosses are NOT legal!

Treated it with the concept it deserved??? Huh?? As a legal secretary I would have thought you would know the word contempt!

No of course it wasn't selective breeding..it was wolfy looking dog x wolfy looking dog = money!!!

I love Gordons too ! My mum was an english setter fan, but I personally prefer the Gordon. Now you mention it, I don't remember seeing one or more for a very very long time.

I agree with you about giving up on dogs. My personal experience with northern breeds in general is that many people just don't listen to their breeder ... their destructive nature, their huge propensity for excavating your garden (this is a problem with Siberian Huskies in particular, but other northern breeds as well - Hal dug for the Olympics, my garden has still not recovered nearly 2 years later!), the virtually impossibility of being able to leave them home alone for any length of time (achievable in you have more than 1 dog, but can still be very difficult), their unacceptingness that they have to sleep anywhere other than your bedroom, their disobedience, their unwillingness to want to please you, the list is endless.

All of this and more can of course be said of many breeds of dog - I can only go on my own personal experience, and that is that no northern breed should be taken on lightly! They are very intelligent and very challenging in ways you will only find out about once you have one. And then it is too late ... and this, in my opinion, is why so many owners apparently give up ... it is almost impossible to really know what you are taking on until you have taken it on !

They are if they are 3rd filial generation or more.

As at this point - the wolf content is deemed to be diluted enough for it not to have any effect on the DOG!

At this point it is a DOG...

I take it you disagree with DEFRA on this point?

I didn't read the whole thread however as a rescue in the republic of Ireland where this animals are legal, I would like to state my opinion. Several years ago I took in a F1 pup. The parents were taken in too and rehomed (dam white GSD, she went into a pet home, father Timberwolf, he went to a wildlife park on the continent). However, I got stuck with the pup who had several major issues and now several years later, he is a permanent resident at EGAR.

I CANNOT for the life of me understand the fascination with WH's. They don't know if they are wolf or dog, are very vocal, require copious amounts of exercise, are mostly not great with other animals/dogs, have strong hunting instinct etc pp.

I am hoping that the day will come here soon and WH's will be banned. But there is a sucker born every minute and GSD x Husky etc are being sold as WH's on every corner of the country.

I am getting off my soap box now.

I do Tassle, because they are totally ignorant of genetics, but it happens to suit me not to tell them so !!

After all, it was representatives from the former MAFF who led to the ban in the first place of ANY dog containing more than 1% wolf. Seeing as all dogs are descended from 3 wolf bitches, traced back through the mitochondrial RNA, this was of course an absolute nonsense. But that did not stop MAFF!

With regards to the bold type- great, then chill out its just a bit of banter

I saw and noted your posts to Batmandy and wasnt referring to you or anyone in particular. Did you also note those that had nothing positive to say regarding her dogs/success?

Anyway- if theres any group of people we need to be wary of its that nasty wolfdoggy lot!!

just banter

Egar : how fascinating, I would love to hear about your F1. Had he been well socialised with humans right from the start, or had he been left to his own devices with his dam and sire, or had he been taken away from them at a young age and well socialised, or not?

Sorry to ask you so many questions, but I would love to hear from you - PM me if you don't want to go into details in public.

Yes you heard right..BUT before you judge....

you should know she is a rescue and was rescued from a life of being a kitten factory.....and has had a happy kitten free life for the last 6 years...

So..what were you saying??

i agree with your point of view as in i personally wouldnt want one, but hope you are not including the'breeds' of saarloos and czech??:?

Saarloos and Czech are too diluted to be called WH's IMHO. They were bred to LOOK like wolves but the few I met act like dogs.

hit it on the head 'look like wolves' but are not!
thanks for answering me