Utonagon what the heck

Discussion in 'Utonagan' started by mo, Oct 2, 2006.

  1. Carrara

    Carrara New Member

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    Yes, luckily we have that now, but thanks for your advice.
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  3. Zoundz

    Zoundz New Member

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    i must say that I find it worrying that the 'forefathers' as it were would say that there were no problems in the breed... forgive me if I read that wrongly :) but surely, everyone knows that there are problems with every single breed... and i would seriously worry about the breeder who claimed there were none - in fact, i would go so far as to say any breeder who said this to me, I would run a mile from :-?

    xx

    eta - i would also be worried about the person who believes these so called forefathers... It's all very suspicious I'm afraid...

    xx
  4. Lucky Star

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    We, as owners or potential owners, are.
  5. Zoundz

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    running a mile? very sensible :)
    It's very sad when breeders try to dupe people - there's nothing worse than lying about underlying issues in a breed. I do see it in rats, though rarely actually which is good - and I make a point of telling everyone who cares to know, exactly what's wrong with our rats. it's just a comparison - and not an ideal one :lol:...

    but I have encountered some pretty dodgy dog breeders who would never dream of bringing up the problems in their lines. :( very worrying and sad too.

    xx
  6. Lucky Star

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    I know, it's a dreadful thing to do, particularly when health related and it's the owner that is left to deal with it. :-(
  7. Kanikula

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    sorry to stir the pot:blush: but i beg to differ.

    i believe if ANY breed of dog (wether breeding stock or not) has the potential for HD should be tested!

    After have a non breeding Berner with terrible HD, i in future will be checking all my dogs for signs of HD. I think this would help in my future decisions regarding activities and working!

    I would be devisted to find out id been working or doing agaility with my dog and finding out he has bad hips and all the activity was making it worse:-(

    Wouldnt you like to know the scores of your dog, purley for the health benefit??
  8. Zoundz

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    a very good point kanikula (LOVE your avatar! :D). We have a lovely lab who developed HD to a smaller extent, and am sure we could have helped this if he'd been tested at a younger age, and we'd known how careful to be with excercise etc. I think from now on, will try to score any dog I have.

    except dudley.
    who i don't care about enough.
    he costs too much :p ;) :lol:

    xx
  9. Kanikula

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    Hey the bernese we had was called Dudley:grin: All his litter mates had to put to sleep because of the severity of HD in them:-( we though Duds would go the same way! Even tohough his hips were begining to crumble he got to a good age of 7 and died from a heart attack :-(
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    Hey the bernese we had was called Dudley:grin: All his litter mates had to put to sleep because of the severity of HD in them:-( we though Duds would go the same way! Even tohough his hips were begining to crumble he got to a good age of 7 and died from a heart attack :-(


    ps i used to have rats! The last one killed the hamster though:blush: dont ask!
  11. Lucky Star

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    It's okay. :grin:
    No I wouldn't because he suffers from cluster seizures which are still not under control and I wouldn't want to risk a GA with his current state of health.
  12. Kanikula

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    So how do you approach not knowing?? do you do "less" activities with him and give suppliments??

    Hes got a lovley face BTW! and sorry to hear about seizures! any ideas on the cause (off topic - woops)

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