Shiranian temprement Discussions

No i haven't made the name up do you know what if this is what a forums all about you can forget it

I am just surprised that you have said that name.. and then say she is from a rescue..

My first concern was that you were going to BUY this kind of dog from a breeder..when essentially it is a crossbreed... breeders of these types of dogs give them names like that to make them worth more to buyers..(labradoodles, etc)

I have never heard of a rescue giving their crossbreeds fancy names like that..

As for temprement well the rescue will have assessed her.. best thing would be to ask the people caring for her/him.. and then take the chance.. you can never guarantee anything with a crossbreed or a rescue..You can only do your best by them..

I am just intrigued as to how the made up name came about if you didn't make it up..

kennel hand thought thats what she was called just came up in discussion at the end of the day i couldnt careless what breed name she wa given she would just be my dog what ever variety just wanted to know if any one knew anything thats all
thanks for your opinion what bother this site again

You call the critical posts education ? They leap on people like a mob baying for blood ! It's no business of anyone's what the poster chooses to call her dog and I find the use of the word Mutt quite offensive what the poster has is a cross breed, mutt is a word people who do not like dogs calls all dogs pedigrees included.

What nonsense, if the cross breed is in existence then why not check out the temperament for yourself but please it is a crossbreed and should be given some dignity and not called by a stupid name particularly by someone who should know better.

I said it was a cross breed and I don't think we can assume everyone does know better or even that you know better. I have had crosses all my adult life I often call them daft names like labollie etc it harms no one and doesn't mean I don't love my dogs.

Tolerance and open minds is what a good forum should be full of IMO.

Jeez, sorry if mutt offends
To me it is just the name I give my mixed pedigree dogs

I thought you were against jumping on people?? but its OK to jump on me cos we use the same word to mean different things

funny that - thats been the problem with the whole thread really!

I think you may have missed my original point, new members are being greeted by people jumping on them this isn't about crosses versus pedigrees or about existing members having differing views - it's about greeting people and possibly educating them if that is what is needed in a manner that will encourage them to come back time and again to post in other threads and feel comfortable to do so, what has happened here and many other times too is a new member has been chased from the forum and may not ever feel like sharing with us again.

imo It has to stop this forum already has a reputation for unfriendliness and cliquiness. I was just hoping to reclaim it a little for all breeds and crosses and encourage members to be a little more friendly towards newbies.

I and I expect others were not aware the OP was a new member, they did not introduce themselves as such.

I and others answered the brief one line question, straight and to the point.

I and I guess others are getting heartily sick of being hauled over the coals because we give a straight and honest answer to a straight question when our opinion is sought, what are we supposed to do lie because the person asking the question may be over sensitive.

I knew it was a new member mainly because in fairly large lettering it said .....
connollyksaj@ao vbmenu_register("postmenu_1546265", true);
New Member!

Couldn't agree more, it seems a straight answer to a straight question , is now classed as bullying,


Maybe if the OP made it clearer in her post what she was after , people may have been able to elaborate a little more.

But when the tittle of a thread is..............

Shiranian Temperament

Then followed by

People can be forgiven for misunderstanding the reason behind it... enquirers over designer e breeds

As this is the impression the poster gave, in her tittle and first post.

We are not mind readers, we can only respond to what is written down... a lessen for us all to ask what we mean.. then no misunderstandings will be made.

To the OP, I am sure if you stick around , you will find that we are a friendly forum,... we will give advice /help each other rand generally get on well together.

BUT........ we will stand up for our beliefs, if we disagree with something we will not hold back.

And that is what makes this a good forum.. we dont just smile and agree with everything we see ..if we have an opinion, we voice it...and long may it last.

It shouldn't matter if it is a new poster or old, pedigree, cross breed or designer breed, everyone should be treated with the same respect and tolerence.
Come on guys, smile, be friendly and ask polite questions first

It is a great shame that Dogsey is getting such a bad name, it used to be such a friendly place.

Really I didnt see lots of bullying, there was questions asked about what the OP ment and oppinions given about the breeding of designer crosses
Because, as I was reminded when I was new, its not just me reading the replies, there are people reading who havent joined yet and either might not because they thing we condone designer crossbreed breeding, or worse still if the post had just been answered with fluffy nice things like
'great temprament'
'such a cute looking breed'

then people might have rushed off looking for breeders of them

I think this thread has been useful in 1st showing that breeding designer dogs is NOT a good thing, and you cannot tell what temprament you are going to get
and if you want a nice little crossbreed then the best place to look is in rescue

But anyway, why is it not right to answer honestly to a newbee cos we are trying to show an atmosphere of friendliness when IN THE SAME THREAD it is totaly OK to jump on existing members who use different terms then you
so we pretend we are all nicey nice break em in gently then jump on the least wee difference once they have been here a while

Mixed messages
I treat anyone as I find them newbee or not

Well I am glad to see your posts Pita and Jackbox..and Mini..and Ben McF

I am not known for my tact and diplomacy.. I don't candy coat anything....

I answered the question..and having NEVER heard of the made up name I asked who had made it up.. simple question.. where did I say anything nasty??

Had this been an intro thread I would have Welcome..but its not..so the question was answered..

Some people are sooo touchy!!

So.. Are you getting the shih tzu as well as the shih tzu cross?? Have you took your labrador along to the rescue to see if it gets along with the shi tzu x??

If members cannot see why I commented and cannot read the titles telling us when a member is new I am not sure what else is to be said I guess it just shows this forum is not for me. I believe in loving all dogs and asking people sensitive questions before making any negative comment. I think it's a shame as this used at one time to known as the friendly forum for dog lovers but somewhere along the line it has become as harsh as many of the other forums we all abandoned to come here.

Yes my answer a few posts back sounded harsh but it was in reply to what I saw as far harsher comments I apologise if I hurt anyone's feelings but hopefully you will forgive me as I was just being as truthful as previous posters

I have asked to be deactivated so would appreciate no one attacking me when I am not able to answer you.

Sorry, but I totally disagree with that statement...

I would call this forum friendly and fair.... but it also stands for its beliefs, and will voice an opinion on bad breeding , and those who do it... if you call that unfriendly that that is your choice.

Believe me you cannot compare this form to some "unfriendly" ones out there...some are down right nasty having no rules on language or name calling ...

There are some who allow the most disgusting language, name calling and down right ridicule of members...and one I briefly was on, if you disagreed with the admin, she would edit your posts adding the most disgusting language to make it look like you (the poster) was writing it... now that is what I call a bad forum.

As far as I am aware, here we can argue till the cows come home, and agree on something the next minute... that to me makes a great forum..but as in life, not everything suite everyone at the same time...

We make our choices , and if we don't like we can walk.

Sorry Julie, where does it say you are new? I only know someone is new if they say "Hello I am new to this forum" we then say welcome but it makes no difference to the answer we will give to a question, the answer, from most people, will be straight and to the point. Are you suggesting we treat newcomers in a different way to old hands, surely not, we would then be guilty of discrimination.

You ask a question, you get an answer, it is up to you if you take it or not, one can always only take notice of the ones that fit your opinion if that is what you want or you can take note of what everyone says and then form you own opinion basted on the years of experience you have tapped into.

Julie.... where do you get that we are not dog lovers??

We love all dogs.. its the practices used to create them that I have a problem with.. all the bad breeding and made up names to inflate prices..

Please point out where I have been nasty to the OP???

Hopefully you can answer this before you are "deactivated" LOL