Questions (What are Northern Inuits like as pets) Questions

Well that says a lot about their own morals and ethics if they are going to use dogs with retained testicles to sire litters, no wonder it's a problem!
Becky

This is a mini exerpt from TIDA`s intro page.. i am hoping it will go someway to explain why we split from the NIS...

The Inuit Dog Association was originally formed by a group of Northern Inuit Dog enthusiasts who wanted to raise the quality of the Northern Inuit Dog and gain positive publicity and exposure of the breed. Association means ‘union or group of like-minded people’ and everyone in the Association has the best interest of the future of the breed at heart and we have strength in working together to achieve our goal.

Contrary to popular belief the Inuit Dog Association is NOT creating a new breed of dog. We are still breeding Northern Inuit dogs. Where we differ from other registering bodies is that we are very concerned with the health of the breed and in this respect are investigating ways of expanding the gene pool, possibly by reintroducing one or more of the original breeds and by using only health tested breeding stock. Using state of the art technology we are creating a genetic map of the breed, which will enable us to pin point weaknesses within the breed and eradicate lines with genetic flaws.

Our breeders will be required to only breed from dogs that meet our criteria and must abide by our rules and code of practice. We require a very high standard from our Approved Breeders and all breeding stock will have to pass the required health checks before being bred from and will be DNA tested.

The goal of the Association is to gain UK Kennel Club recognition for the Northern Inuit breed. We are working with the Kennel Club with this aim and understand that the KC requires a unified application in five years time. We are willing to work with the NIS but will go ahead with our application alone if they continue to refuse to acknowledge existing problems within the breed or to work with us to improve the health of the breed.

The problems we are looking into at present are monorchism, seizures, HD and possibly Addisons


edited to say... sorry cheyenne.. i hadn`t read your posts, you had already covered our stand point.

I don't know the full story, but I guess things got a bit heated once or twice (a very rear thing I know lol) and some of TIDA members were band from coming on here. The others are sick of the arguments and just don't come on here anymore :-(

The only part I see a problem with is the part where you are going to reintroduce mals, sibes or gsds.. sure if that is the case then they will just revert to being crossbreeds..

(and of course having mals it will annoy me cos I don't think they should be used to cross anything)

Of course TIDA members are allowed on here,arent you yourself on the TIDA commitee,the breed commitee and the show commitee?

Where did she say she wasn't??

I was referring to other TIDA members, I thought that would have been obvious.

I actually don't have an issue with that if they genuinely want to improve the breed, remember it is a new creation and may well still need an input of the parent breeds. As long as it isn't done to excess and only outstanding dogs both physically and health wise are used then go for it. That is very forward thinking in my view.
There are many pure breds that could do with a bit of outside blood!
Becky

Thank you Becky we would only use the best dogs to do this.

If we do go in this direction.. it will be with the advice and guidance of the KC. The dogs will be crossbreeds at the beginning and WILL NOT be registered as Northern Inuits.. but at this moment in time we are far more concerned with the health of the NI, rather than the type. We do need to expand the gene pool, to eradicate these problems. At this stage there has been no decision.. which breeds might be reintroduced.

Yes but the people with oustanding health bred stock aren't going to let their dogs be used on a cross are they?? I know the breeders I know certainly won't..

So If someone asked to use one of your poodes on a labradoodle you would be fine with it??

Oh forgot to add.. Surely if they are needing gsd etc brought back in then they are a long way off being KC recognised.. as then it will take the pedigrees back to being crossbreeds

No I wouldn't lol but I don't see the Labradoodle as in anyway as near to achieving a 'breed' as the NI's are and I have only ever been approached by people to use my dogs for one off litters and first crosses with no intention of breed creation at all.
If they had their act together and I could see that had a goal and aim etc then maybe I would think a bit differently but they are still using parent breeds in labradoodles even 5 generations in, well they are using poodles because they want the non-moulting gene fixed so most Labradoodles are 75% poodle in any event
Becky

It will be hard to find the right dog/s and to find a breeder/s that will let us use their dog, but hopefully we will find a breeder thats see's we are trying to do what is best for the health of our breed and will understand and agree.

We estimate that KC recognition 5 - 10 years away.

I reckon that's a bit optomistic! You'd need a closed stud book for at least 5 years before they would even consider it so if you are looking at still introducing parent breeds now then I'd add another 5 years onto the 10 personally.
Becky

We are here for the long haul and will do the right thing.. for as long as it takes. The health of this breed is paramount.

That wasn't intended as a slur just more realistic view, I would hope that anyone wishing to make an impact in any breed is in it for the long haul. Too many these days want to go from unknown to top breeder in less than a year!
Becky

Here here

Sorry Becky.. i didn`t mean that to sound quite the way it did..

That's ok it wasn't taken as a slur. We value other peoples veiws and opinions

How refreshing the last few pages of this thread has become. At last there are honest and open people who are not papering over the cracks. It seems you are definately striving for the betterment of the breed and as you say health is paramount. Thank you for your informative posts, well done.