Questions (What are Northern Inuits like as pets) Questions

OK lets get this straight, there are no 'crossbreeds' scored on the BVA stats. Now you say that they may have been recorded as Huskys but have admitted that some dogs have very high scores yet the average score for Huskies is just 7 and not going higher than 43 so I don't think that fits into your theory either.
Becky

Its not a theory, its the truth as I know it. If you want me to get nit picky I can. I actually said huskys etc (that includes mal and GSD), depending on what the particular submitting vet decided they were most like at the time! So not all specifically submitted as husky's, thats just what my vets consider them to be most like, I know other vets consider them to be more like GSD's, whos scores do go higher than 43.

Sorry to the original poster as the link I put on here has been criticised for being from the US, here is a UK link ref the Malamute and health issues

http://www.alaskanmalamute.org.uk/BreedHealthIssues.htm

nobody is hding the fact that mals have health issues. All dogs do. Well except the NI of course

Oh it also says about HD being found in almost every breed

'Although this is found in almost every breed...'

I find you very rude.

exactly there is no breed that is 100% free of health problems no matter what some people say!
Becky

i was just pointing out the obvious (and what iv concluded from this thread )

The reason I put that last link on is because I was criticised for putting on a US link ref Mal health probs. So I put on a UK one, I thought I had made that clear.

None on here has said that NIDs have no health problems.

I am finding this thread is now getting very non productive as certain people ask questions, are given answers and try to twist things as they want to try to discredit our fabulous breed. There are many breeds I am not fond of but I would never dream of trying to take them to pieces just because of my personal likes and dislikes.

I am off to take my dogs for a run.

Thank you for clearing that up for me.

I am sure you were a force to be reckoned with when it came to getting your breed known on the hip score ;-) I would have been too and I believe anyone wanting to better the breed would also be as insistent.

I am failing to find any reason in my mind why anyone would except their breed being called another name, I would go to a million different vets, spend an awful lot of money and use all of my time before conceding, my love for my breed would over ride all the problems I may face.

I am certainly dismayed that any vet would knowingly put the names of any breed on a hip score when in effect if it will not be accepted as a NI it is a cross. If it was a Husky/GSD/Mal the breeder would have insisted that was the name that goes on the hip score. I am concerned that hip scores cannot be totally accurate to the breed if crosses were permitted to called by another name :?

No one is trying to discredit your chosen breed, people are trying to ascertain what ethics were used in the breeding of the NI and what health issues may result. The NI comes under a lot of scrutiny because the water is muddy around some of the people who breed/bred NIs. I hope you do not take offense from people who are obviously confused, I being one of them, to what is actually happening behind the scenes for the breed. I do not know of anyone who does not have the dogs best interest at heart when arguing their corner.

just because crossbreeds arent listed on the stats, doesnt mean they are'nt scored, we had our staffy x done, just out of curiosity, and the vet told us he would put him down as staffy x lab. in the end the results came back calling him a crossbreed.

Lol, you wouldnt think so, most threads that end up as arguments, the arguments are usually caused by people that have no interest in the breed. Others are caused by people who might have personal differences against members of the N.i society.
Even people that own the breed and have taken offence because some dont think their dogs are perfect, take a stance against the only breed club that are doing things right. i am thoroughly disgusted sometimes, to come on here and see the obvious provocation. No-one is saying the N.I is perfect, no breed is and as long as we take the precautionary steps of testing against any genetic health problems, then that imo is 'doing the right thing'.
I think everyone within the NIS had the breeds best interest at heart.

The NI also comes under close scrutiny because it is a new creation, and in all honesty should, in this day and age, have fully documented history which it hasn't got, plus all the relevant health testing.
When Bruce Cattanach did the bob tail boxer experiment everything was recorded and documented, all the dogs were health tested and he kept in contact with the KC about it all.
If I was going to creat a new breed (still thinking about my plush poms lol) then it would be in public open to all and sundry with fully documented history going back to the original dogs used in the beginning. I would register all resultant offspring on the KC activities register so there was a formal, traceable history then you can't be accused of doing things in secret!
Becky

I have just had Kain hip scored and my vet said it would be difficult as N.I 's are not BVA listed that they would have to score him with a similar breed type ! As far as I was told by my breeder Hip scoring on the N.I was not compulsory till 2006 hence Kains dad wasn't done, and at that time was also told Hd was not apparent in the N.I but read in the old N.I forum only last year about an N.I of about 3-5months with really bad Hd obviously every time sommit like that flags up I worry for my boys ...obviously !
Edited to say I agree with every thing Mahooli has listed above, you would expect proffesional breeders to take new breeding seriously enough to document it.
I also know of pups up here which were concieved before either parents were hip scored (N.I ) and not so long ago either.

Just goes to prove what I was saying earlier!!!!

NI's can be scored as NI's if I were you I'd get back in touch with my vet and ask them to get the correct breed name put on the forms.

Just out of curiosity what breed did they say they would put him down as?

They did'nt know what the BVA would use, and if they can be scored as N.I then the BVA should already have that information.

I posted because the original poster indicated that she was now thinking of a malamute rather than a NID.

Yes but this thread is about NI... NOT Malamutes.. We hide nothing in malamutes..

Aside from the health tests, they can be prone to a lot of things as listed on the website.. some things there are tests for others there aren't.. BUT its all set out in B&W and any breeder or owner will tell the truth

Oh and since the NI started off with Mal blood in them. I suppose they are also prone to everything Mals are and everything Sibes are and everything GSD are..not forgetting the "inuit type" dogs that was crossed into them too.. whatever they were