Opinions On Crossing GSDs with NIDs Controversial

You would think wouldn't you To cut a long story short - the KC retain copyright on all breed standards so they can't simply be copied from the country of origin. When the UK standard was written, it was written to reflect the dogs that were in the country at the time, not simply what the US standard asked for.

No - if you look at the DNA research that was undertaken, Mals came out as one of the 14 ancient breeds based on their DNA. Now Pharoah Hounds on the otherhand (I think it was them) were found to be a modern recreation of an ancient dog.

Thanks , abit off topic but I found this link and I found it quite true when thinking about how two of my dogs behave in parts, it would be a good thing for anyone looking at getting anyone of these 'types' of dogs , I guess, although it is specific to Mals on this website:

http://omalmalamutes.com/omal/wolves.htm

So she must of tried to breed from it then to know that??

Incorrect Info - Sorry.

Sorry i just wondered where in the article it states Ms Tanner would be breeding from it?

Are we on about the f3 in the article on the other thread, or a different dog. Either way, you could create an f1. I don't know of many other people who would have the means to do so.

I don't think the animal is sterile but had a few problems in that department.

The funniest thing is that I read somewhere else how one animal was an F3 and that its parent was a pure wolf - I guess its easy to get confused about these things

Apologies - it was the other person who was going to be breeding Hybrids....my mistake. Sorry.

Its all a croc of s**t, just greedy people, distasteful and unpleasant, buy hey ho, its the dogs that will suffer, right. Totally ruined the chances of Saarloos and Czech in the UK, they have a lot to be proud of.

To be fare, people do tend to forget things as they age.

Perhaps these animals just have split personalities?

Who knows.

If referring to KC.....How can the Csv or the Saarloos chances be ruined in the UK when they are a genuine breed in their own right and can be traceable? Although i am a little surprised at the numbers being shown recently at the Euro dog show in Belgium there was less then a handful there! Wolfdog owner do you show yours?

Well there isnt a decent breeder that will sell to the UK now is there? cant blame them, I certainly dont.

There are already pure bred dogs in the UK though! You can all slate the breeders but undoubtedly some of them do possess good quality dogs with health tests etc

In Europe these breeds are very much minority or specialist breeds and people seem sensible enough to recognise that they are not an ideal family pet. I have not been to any shows this year but there are usually only one or two in the regional shows. I do not show my animals at all; the only exception was for the breed confirmation that is required to be accepted by the KC equivalent stud book. Then both dogs had to be inspected at a certified event.

I have been asked many times to breed from them but then where would I find responisible homes for the pups?

How many dogs are in the U.K, how many pups have been sold so far and how long have they (Saarloos and CSV) been here?
I'd be willing to bet the figures would be quite shocking.

Ah i see. I have met a few wolfdog owners from france, poland, czech and belgium and yes i must admit most did do something or another with their dogs agility & obedience mostly. I do agree they are not an ideal family pet, i have csv crosses and do indeed see the need for a more engaging environment shall we say. But thats true of most working breeds, well i would say so.

Purebreds you mean Liz to clarify?

Yes I know health tests, breeding from a Czech Wolfdog with a hip score of 42, great!!! As I said, much to be proud of.