Northern Inuits - Crosses? Controversial

A number of inflammatory statements and pre-conceived ideas there Terry;-) . I feel not really fair on the members who are genuinely trying to do their best for their breed.

There, there Dawn, it takes more than that, eh? ;-)

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Did you take this up with the breeder, Terry?

Also, how did this person get hold of one of your pure-bred puppies/dogs to breed from? Do you check up on and keep in touch with your owners and keep records etc.?

One can say the same of all breeds, no matter how many are in rescue, breeders will keep breeding more.
I remember the first Shar Pei import being on the news, and at the time iirc pups sold for £3,000 each. There was a rescue set up for the breed within a year of that first Shar pei arriving...

NIs are not immune from needing rehoming either and mark my words, the more which are bred the sooner it will become a big problem for the dogs.
There are not enough homes for the established breeds which people are very familiar with let alone a new type which few people understand the needs of well enough, [ I`ll call any type a breed when its officially recognised as a Breed, until then they are a type, same as Lurchers are a type not a Breed ;-) ].

Do I think there was any `need` to develop this type which according to most ads I`ve seen are indeed advertised for their look [ wolf like ] more than anything else ?
Personally no, I don`t believe so, no more than here is a need for labadoodles, Peekapoo`s and all the other crossbreeds which are then claimed to be `purebred` by only being mated Labradoodle to Labradoodle etc etc. [ But are still called labradoodles...hmmmmm ].

But the fact is, these dogs are being bred, so is`nt it time to move forward and concentrate on making sure those which are bred from are healthy in mind and body and to sell them on character / temperament instead of `wolf lookalike`, and to stop the infighting once and for all ?

Sooner or later, [ sadly I suspect it will be sooner ], there will be a need for a permanent co-ordinated NI rescue network. [ And for Labradoodles, Sprollies, and all the other types springing up here there and everywhere, I`m not singling out NIs ].
The dogs which will need help wont give a hoot who started this or that or who is arguing with who, all that should matter is that the most knowledgeable and capable people will look after them properly which, by ethical standards, should be whoever bred them.
If that breeder can`t or won`t, [ which should never be the case, any breeder should be fully prepared to take back every dog they have bred at any time and if they can`t they should`nt breed imo ], or if a buyer needed to rehome but felt the breeder was too bad a prospect, [ there are bad breeders in every breed and type ], then others will be needed to step in.

Would someone one on one side of the NI fence refuse to help a dog in dire straits because he or she was bred by an NI breeder on the other side of the fence ?
Is it the dogs fault that humans have ridiculous ego`s ?

Is`nt it time for a truce and for people to start thinking about the future of the dogs, to be able to work together for the rescue side when the time comes, [ and it will come, it always does :-( ], instead of petty bickering about the past ?

Do you not sell pups with endorsements or other written legal contract to prevent this sort of thing ? If you did and one of yours was used illegally [ against signed contract conditions ], can`t you take legal action ?

To my knowledge there are two rescue organisations for Utonagans Patch:

http://www.utonagan-rescue.com/

http://www.theutonagansociety.com/pages/welfare.php

And I believe the NI society have similar arrangements - there was a recent thread on here with NIs needing re-homing and all stops were pulled to find these dogs a home.

Here ya go - a marvellous collaboration and a great use of Dogsey, IMO:


http://www.dogsey.com/showthread.php?t=59061&highlight=inuit rescue

Thanks Lucky Star, [ though its not good at all for there to be a need for organised rescue so soon after any type or recognised breeds inception :? ]

So, in the interests of fairness, I will ask Tracey the same question as Terrysibe was asked about Huskies :

If there is an NI rehoming problem, why do people carry on breeding them ?

Yes the Northern Inuit Society does have rescue in place, Carmen Noble being rescue Co-ordinator. We have successfully rescued and rehomed many NI's including a recent bunch that involved Carmen making a 609 mile trip to save them from being put to sleep, they are now in new homes & doing well.

Well I'm not involved in breeding or any organisation that breeds but if I were I would include a rescue/re-homing programme as par for the course. This is because I would anticipate that in a dog-owner partnership it will not always work out and I would want to ensure that dogs of my chosen breed come back to their origins and are catered for appropriately.

It does happen; Ms X does not anticipate that child no.2 will adversely affect the dog's standing in the home or the dog is so destructive that the owner can't cope or the dog becomes aggressive and more besides ... all these things happen to many dogs of many breeds.

I think it is only responsible and commendable that, should the need arise, Rescues have been set up.

I agree - and so am locking this.

I have no issues with people discussing issues, so long as they are done in an adult and amicable manner.