Northern Inuit Puppie in PAH General Chat

Welcome again Jon, thanks for taking part, I thought you had given up having been pointed to your latest post on your local forum!

What was it?

ah yes that was it!!

Anyway to answer your question. Free ad sites often attract the wrong type of "buyer" and as has been said already, a good reputable breeder will not flood the market and be breeding far too many puppies to be able to find suitable homes for. Therefore you tend to find a lot of breeders who produce large numbers of puppies advertise in such places, free to advertise you see!

Breeders who do not just breed to sell, will usually have several people wanting a puppy and keep at least one for themselves, those that produce solely for commercial benefit will advertise in all avenues in order to keep inquiries coming all the time, to sell all the puppies they breed.

Yes, I totally agree. I've heard that some very "respected" breeders follow some practices I wouldn't even dream of. Like inbreeding and farming their litters out for other people to care for because of lack of time. I'd have to have two broken arms/legs before I'd hand a litter over for another breeder to rear

No downer, just decent breeders advertising in decent places, not free sites. If they had sufficient interest in a planned litter, 90% of advertising would not be necessary, and of course if they breed quality stock from quality animals, those in the breed will always be willing to pass on potential homes should they not be able to help themselves.

Oh, so if you pay to advertise on the KC website that makes a difference does it?

I've looked at puppies/spoke to breeders from the kc site and quite honestly, I wouldn't have touched their pups with a barge pole. I've also bought some wonderful pups via the kc sales register.

Well it does at least mean you are WILLING to pay! All of the mass produced crossbreeds couldnt be advertised on the KC website anyway, cos they are crossbreeds.

My point stands, if you have done your homework, you shouldnt need to advertise anywhere.

Being willing to pay doesn't say anything about the breeder at all.

In your opinion maybe.

Louise,

Lovely to hear from you again- how's the "wild" menagery"?

Ok so in your opinion potential owners are only aloud to buy a pup if they are a chum of the breeder or connected in somoe other way?

On the one hand you want breeders to have waiting lists for pups but on the other you dont want them to advertise? How Are those potential owners who are not "connected" in this femi-masonic world supposed to know where pups are being bred- Consult the runes? Doggie divining rod?

Im sure many good Breeders are quite capable of advertising as they see fit and assessing people on their own merit.

Borderdawn,

Greetings! Im glad you take such an interest in my posts- clearly youve searched for the post most relevant to yourself-well done

Now try to stay calm as it is actually a serious point.

I agree with Cheeky here. There is nothing wrong with breeders advertising wherever they wish-thats up to them not you. It doesnt make them money grabbing either-your argument is illogical and, im afraid to say, clearly indicates a level of snobbery on your part. Please refer to my post to Louise for further details

I think there's a lot of snobbery in the world of dogs. Not a pretty side to any person's character

The menagery is fine..none of them are wild though

Didn't say that..or anything close to that..
I said..most people don't even know that good breeders have litters on the ground (as they don't need to advertise!) By that I mean the people who have managed to find such a good breeder have done so by other means..NOT by finding an ad on a free website!!

By doing their research and attending shows/rallys/trails etc and approaching and talking to people..They then discuss face to face that they would LIKE a pup..and are then informed of litters..Simple....NO advertising..

I am sure they are..but your version of good and my version of good are hugely different

Ill not bother thanks and I was very pleased indeed when the link was mailed to me, made my day it did.

Do you, well after 22yrs in "dogs" Im still meeting great people all the time, no snobs either! Plenty of folk who care about where their pups go though and will home them through the right channels, word of mouth, recommendation etc.. not free ad sites.

Everyone's perception of "snob" is different, obviously I feel people are snobs if they think they are a cut above and look down on others

Oh, I see you added to your post. So do you think that people that use freead sites don't give a damn where their pups go........................mmmmmmmmmm, not sure there's much logic in that line of thinking. An ad site is just that, an ad site. So long as the breeder is very wary and checks out the potential puppy owner before handing the pup over, I can't see what difference it makes where that person came from. If you meet someone at a dog show, doesn't make that person worthy. I know of some show people that I wouldn't want one of my pups to go to

Define: Snob

A snob is someone who adopts the worldview of snobbery — that some people are inherently inferior to him or her for any one of a variety of reasons

that couldn't be it cheeky ;-)

Yes, and my perception of a good breeder obviously differs to yours. Nothing personal, just my opinion.

Louise,

People are doing their "research" by learning about breeds then subsequently responding to an advert or adverts and visiting dogs/breeders so they can then make their own minds up.

Many people dont enjoy or agree with the world of dog shows-that, again, is their choice not yours. Furthermore, certain "show dogs" sometimes arent the healthiest of specimens-take a look at the GSD show stock.

Reputeable breeders have been advertising in the papers for years and subsequently vetting people appropriately. Perhaps your method enhances the bank balances of those with a vested interest in the doggy show world? After all many breeders openly brag about dams and sires being "show champs" in order to create interest in prospective litters.

Potential owners and breeders are and should be free to find their own avenues for pups not just those laid down by the dog show world.

As always BD, you and I can agree to differ

Good post Cheeky-totally agree

What couldn't be what, Cheeky???????????????

That definition does it for me;-)

Of course