Mr & Mrs Wolf Tonight on 5 Shaun Ellis! General Chat

I have explained to Shona in a private message, I have explained to Azz in a private message. I really cannot state here in public what happened, but I guess this won't be good enough for you, so I will copy and paste to you BD what I said to Shona. Got to go now, in middle of work.

my IP address is 2 different members, both myself and my fiance .

I use two computers here, a laptop and a desktop, I also log in at work, which has 3 computers, one Mac, two desktops and two other members, my bosses. Im sure dogsey admin accounts for all of this.

Thank you for your PM.

I do find it strange though that both you and the other person share the same grammer too!

Like you both leave a gap after a word before inserting the "!" You also do that on the CW forum.

The reason you PM'd me - ie that you share a broadband connection with someone else (we won't go into how you do that here) is still not good enough - because it wasn't just the same IP. The accounts were accessed by the same computer! We have advanced systems in place that let us know when that happens.

Giving you a one month ban. Do it again and it will be account closure.

Sorry to take OT but my ex also uses my computer when he is here and although he rarely comes on here we could also end up being banned

Denise Taylor seems to have a particular dislike for Shaun Ellis, when the Nat Geo program came out she mentioned her disapproval in two UKWCT magazines and on their website. In conversation with her she was bordering on the hysterical, so I terminated the discussion. She also had some issue with SE and his personality when they invited him as a guest speaker.
Its all very well to lecture about domination and wolves and then step out of the room to walk a wolf on a chain just to entertain a load of suburbanites. In the wolf walk I observed one animal that seemed unhappy with being dragged around the field with dozens of humans. I was also given a lecture on how dangerous wolfdogs were from a senior handler who had never actually met one!

If you are going to counter what SE does with his wolves then stick to experienced biologists, not self appointed organisations like the UKWCT or a lecture from a disgruntled photographer in the case of Monty Sloan.

No you couldnt unless you and him join with mulitiple accounts and start agreeing with youself!

we only have one PC in our house. we both takes turns on forums we are both members of.

so are mine and danish pastries accounts.
we live together and are both members on dogsey, although danish pastry doesnt come on as often as me.

is this ok?

I don't want to try to speak for Azz but I think he was saying that in the reason given to him for the same IP being used, there was mention of a shared broadband by whatever means but no mention was made of the use of the same pc, which apparently seems to be the case.

ok. thanx..............

So it's bad for the UKWCT to walk wolves around on chains, but it's ok for SE to bring his wolf out on a chain to meet people and walk around a field?

The Sunday Times
Feb 22nd 2009

Mr and Mrs Wolf was unintentionally a fabulously funny programme. Here’s a man who looks like a fat retired heavy-metal guitarist, who lives in a caravan next to a cage full of wolves, and every day he gets up and rolls around with them, going literally loopy. He was, we were told, a world expert on rolling around with undomesticated dogs, and he got so good at it he’d been accepted into the pack at No 3. I think spending a lifetime learning to be a third-rate wally is deeply funny. The wolves had names that they couldn’t pronounce. It all seemed to come from role-playing war games. They also had each been appointed a job. Our man was the “mediator”; he had grown up to be a fairly fat social worker, so the other wolves bit him a lot. His great desire was to get his girlfriend involved with the pack. Her job was to be nanny to a pregnant wolf — apparently this involved regurgitating offal for a big mangy alsatian.

It was at this point I rolled off the sofa with helpless mirth.

It was all done with such hyperventilating, tense seriousness, and there was something weirdly sexual about it all, grooming your girlfriend to go dogging. Nobody asked what was in it for the wolves. They regarded the humans with a nervous politeness and bit them if they got too fresh. You may think wolves have a bad reputation with people, but it’s nothing like the reputation people have with wolves. This programme was another fine example of the old journalistic truth that dog bites man isn’t news, but man gets his bird to be a bitch’s bitch is.

Ha ha ha ha for the first bit!

The last paragraph, however, is quite poignant.

so its not just us on dogsey that can see the problem here....

Its a good job Gnasher is banned, she would be saying they are being liebelous!!

Well i'm usually totally against any kind of bitchiness and ive been busy past two days so trying to catch up and bypass the crap spewed during the good bits on threads but i have to say the Gnasher stuff completely cracked me up tonight Thanks

Karma eh?

The point is that for someone to chastise SE for 'Dominance over nature' but to support dragging unwilling wolves around on chains for their own project is hypocrisy. For some one to say that they do more with their wolves than SE and them make them jump through hoops like circus animals...

It strikes me that none of these people are really any better than each other.

big mangy alsatian?, I think the wolf might sue them as well! ;-)