Fermented foods for dogs Diet

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  1. Malka

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    Apart from bio yoghurt, Pereg has a probiotic tablet every day. No fermented veggies though.
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    will have to show it my dad and ask him as its all in Polish. It was in the fridge with all the actimel and yukult stuff. I just spotted the word kefir and thought oh thats the stuff azz talks about ill get phoebe some of that. it i wasnt getting my own actimel i would never have spotted it
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    I can get a kefir starter but the problem is that it needs 1 litre of milk per pack, and I do not drink regular milk. On the rare occasions I do I have "Lite" ie unsweetened soy milk.

    And one litre of kefir is a heck of a lot.
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    You can make it with soy milk and you don't always need to make a litre either. Have a butchers here
    http://thekefircompany.co.uk/index.php?route=information/faq
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    Let us know what he says Katy.

    Malka, Trouble is right, you can make as much as you want - just adjust the times or amount of Kefir grains.

    The grains 'grow' so you can either eat them when they become too much - or give them away :)
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    To be honest I do not know what you mean by the grains "growing". You say that I could eat them - could I give them to Pereg?
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    I use live grains so don't know anything about dehydrated ones, my lot get through quite a bit but my son makes his own but just nicks some of my grains to start it, I think you have to use at least 3 spoonfuls and the amount of milk is up to you after the first batch. They stop working after about 5 cycles or so and then I start with a new batch.
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    I paid about £5 for my grains, they were raised in goats milk :lol: The batch was fairly small, but over the course of a few months it grew!!

    Malka they are called 'grains' but they actually look like little cauliflower florets, and they are soft. They grow a bit with each batch, and it's fine to eat them or feed them to dogs :)
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    I have put a pack down for my next order - the reviews seem good and at $6.82 for three 2 x 5g packets [it says 5g for a litre or quart] it is worth a try. Quite a few of the reviews say that 5g will make two quarts [it is an American site so they talk in quarts but the instructions do say a litre or a quart].

    Pereg loves cottage cheese so I am sure she will be only too happy if the kefir produces something similar but as this starter is freeze-dried maybe it will not produce grains. I know that a few of the reviews mention it being so thick they can eat it with a spoon but I gave up after reading a couple of dozen of the 5* reviews!

    I am limited to 4lb in weight per order and this pack only weighs 0.2lb so will be a good fill in as I try to get as close to 4lb as I can! And at only $4 postage per order [not per item] I cannot grumble! :grin:
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    Sorry its taken so long to get back to you Azz.. I finally got round to taking some photos of the pickled veggies I bought from the refrigerated section at Spar .... so here goes!

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    From left to right .... Turo, cottage cheese, Bio Kefir, tub of sauerkraut salad with gherkin and red peppers, packet containing gherkin, whole onion, cauliflower, whole green tomato, whole chilli pepper, whole green pepper and whole round yellow pepper, tub of Farmfol (sour cream).

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    Out of their packets .... front = sauerkraut salad, back = mixed veggies and bowl of cottage cheese
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    Barbara you have convinced me that somehow I am going to have to get down to the old spice shuk where there are stalls selling all sorts of raw, unpasteurised pickled veggies.

    In the meantime I have realised that by taking out the drawers of my dehydrator I can make yoghurt and kefir without heating milk etc.

    Somehow I do not fancy making pickled veg, mainly because I have no space to make it!
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    Malka - do it :lol:

    That looks really nice Barbara - making me hungry :lol: I wish I had been into it all when I visited there last, I would be in my element trying all of that :043:

    Is it all RAW, i.e. unpasteurised? That is really important for probiotic food - do you know what it says on all the packets? Any info on the micro-organisms they contain etc?
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    Eddie has ulcerative colitis so we've been using pre/probiotics for about 8 months now. He has porridge + actimel for his breakfast, grain free kibble with stewed mixed veg. for lunch, with a little chicken liver, cottage cheese or tray food as a garnish. He has a spoonful of Protexin mixed in his veg, (I wont bore you with all the additives I am trialling). I make water kefir and though he isn't over keen on the liquid part, he has the surplus grains in his veggies. It has gone mad since the weather improved! Never thought of sauerkraut, another one to try - he does like cabbage.
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    Poor Eddie - you'll have to start a thread about it Carole.. loads of questions for you!
    Edit: Carole's thread can be found here: http://www.forum.breedia.com/threads/ulcerative-colitis-in-dogs.13518/
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    I took some milk Kefir over the neighbours last night, and their dog loved it! He was begging for more! I might take some Sauerkraut with me next time :lol:
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    Well, our first batch of rejuvenac was ready this morning! The smell did not invade the house, and it doesn't taste too bad - except - I must have had a senior moment and added a teaspoon of sea salt instead of a pinch. so it's not surprising that the dogs don't like it.
    The chopped cabbage residue they did cautiously eat raw, however the dessertspoonful I mixed into their lunches has disappeared OK. The rest has been stirred into the doggy stockpot - I've just tasted it and it has made quite a nice addition.
    I'm now off to write out 100 times, 'I must learn to read a recipe more carefully'.
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    My pack of dehydrated kefir starter has arrived and I will probably have a go at making it after Passover. It will be interesting to see if it works OK in my dehydrator as I can put it on the yoghurt setting.
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    Nice one Carole! The salt won't hurt - but will obviously have an impact on the taste (some people prefer it). The salt will also help keep the bad bacteria at bay so it's not all bad. Did you try it yourself? It's good to take it before meals :)

    I am experimenting with mine at the mo - the first batch I ever made was by juicing he cabbage, and then putting the pulp back into it along with the water. It actually tasted really nice but I chickened out and through it out as it wasn't to recipe. But now I know what it should taste like I have made a similar batch :lol: I hope it tastes as nice as the first!

    Let us know how you get on with it Malka :)
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    Will do but I cannot start it until Wednesday now due to Passover starting on Monday at sunset. There should be a milk delivery at the macolet on Sunday but whether they bring the soya lite milk I ordered is debatable, and Avner is closing up at ~1-2pm Monday until Tuesday 22nd. But, I have an as yet unopened pack of dried unsweetened soy milk powder so will use that - probably half and half with water.

    If it works OK in my dehydrator on the yoghurt setting I am going to try making yoghurt as well. That is the advantage of having a rectangular dehydrator with removable shelves as against a round one, as the shelves can be taken out and a bowl put inside. :)

    I am actually debating whether to try making rejuvenac...

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