Do NI's/UTE's etc look more wolfy than the recognised breeds? Discussions

I dont think boobah or myself would for a min call the dogs Naff, or the owners,
But statements such as " wolfy looking dog" is a tad Naff

So why are you so anti NI? I personally feel that a Malamute would be too much for me to handle - otherwise they are gorgeous. I don't slate malamutes in the way people slate the NI.

Spot on hun ;-)xxxxxx

Each to his own.Just put the piccies up as requested. I love my dogs and I love their personalities. Until you have one you just don't appreciate how different they are to a 'doggy' dog. Would never have another breed now,but that is me and how I feel.

Glad to hear it - it was the phrase "These meant to be lookalikes are a tad naff ..." as pasted above, that made me wonder.

I think it's fine it if it is a healthy physique and proportions that is being desired, not just a 'wolfy' looking mask. Given the current state of many pedigree dogs with seriously sloping backs, and deformities etc. etc. blah, blah, blah deliberately bred into them it is logical to go for a healthier structure.

IF that were to be combined with excellent general health and temperament, all the better really.

I am not anti NI..I am anti NI secrecy and not answering the main questions..

So by saying what you have are you basically saying that you aren't brave enough to own a Mal so you get something that looks similar??

I don't slate the dogs..if I slate anything its the breeders/people etc

Same can be said for Mals..but then the same could probably be said by every one on here for their chosen breeds

Can't speak for everyone with a Utonagan (obviously ) but I know that both Anzarra and Sulin Harrison on the piccies I put up are both hip and eye scored, both have low hip scores and clear eyes. The recent litter fathered by Anzarra were eye tested before they left for their new homes and all their eyes were clear. They will both shortly be going for VWD and Addisons tests. Both my 2 have been hip scored and are shortly to go for eye tests. After that I will be having them tested for VWD and Addisons. I know that a lot of Utonagan owners are now going this way as well so we all know exactly what we have in our lines.

Can I ask why you didnt elbow score when you had the hips done,
Im not getting at anyone, but it just seems that given the animal is already under anisthetic{sp?} it would be wise to do both, it barely puts the cost up, its so worth the extra few pounds,
That said many many rottie breeders still dont do elbows

There was no requirement for me to elbow score at the time, I am going to have it done, definately. People hip scoring their dogs now do have the elbows done at the same time, I didn't, so it is going to cost another £300 and odd to have it done. It is on the list!!!! I agree that whilst the dog is under anaesthetic it is a relatively simple thing to do, I think the extra cost is about £30 or something.

Must say the fact the lady is hip scoring and Addisons and Von willbrand has to be admired as she is way ahead of all NI breeders.

I cant decide which way to vote as I get stopped all the time by people shocked how much like a wolf he is then others saying is he husky or a shepherd x and one lady asked is he a NI.





So I dont know some do some dont and not sure what Kato looks like.

In the last photo he looks like a muck magnet, lol, bless him

good stuff, Glad to hear it's something thats been taken up within the breed ;-)

Please supply us with some statistics Kcjack, before you suggest that NID has certain diseases attributed to it, assuming that that is what you meant by your above comment. Thanks.

Well I don't have any heavy sleds to pull. The malamute is bred for that and the NI is bred as a pet as far as I know. Although, some do. I wasn't looking particularly for a malamute look, although Lupi has been mistaken for one a couple of times when sitting looking out the window by postmen.

Many NI breeders appear to be way ahead of the KC too.

What tests should NIs have - I've seen the ones on the Utonagan. But as far as I know NI tests are hips, eyes and some do DNA profile too. May have missed something/be mistaken.

Even though I have pet dogs, I'd consider tests just to add to statistics and know if I have anything to worry about. So many non-NI owners telling me, there must be something wrong with my dog because he is an NI???

:? In what way?

Many breeders of kc reg breeds are way ahead of breed councils and kc too,

there is no law for me to health test my dogs, but most of the rottie breed councils do ask you to hip score,

I do hips/elbows/ eyes,

its been said before, But I say it again the kc are there to reg pups, its DOWN to breeders to health check,

but I would love to know how NI breeders are ahead of the KC, do you mean in there Reg practices?

The above conditions are seen in the founder breeds of the NI so it stands to reason that they should also be tested for them. Surely the testing for these conditions is a good thing?

Gawd, it is very unusual for people to know what a Mal is, let alone call another breed one Ours are always called Sibes or Huskies

Do you have any photo's of Lupi? Would be interested in seeing a dog that has been mistaken for a Mal

I keep hearing (from one source and only one source might I add) that NIDs suffer from the above conditions and numerous other conditions, I would like to know the numbers that are affected with factual evidence to back up these numbers.