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It is very sad, and a completely false representation of the breed. I feel for the dogs themselves, as it will be them ultimately that will suffer, as well as dog owners like yourself Shirley that has had to go through something like that.

Unfortunately for us, our breed is the breed that these numpty's have chosen to hijack in order to make them look hard.

Completely agree with you Biff, well said

The staffies that I have had experiences with that have responsible owners are beautiful gentle dogs that are full of character and I think it is really sad that they are being sragged into this debate because of the 'numpties'

The original bulldogs were bred for bull baiting, they were much larger than our British bulldogs and without the health problems. They were possibly more like the American bulldogs which some people believe were shipped to the States on the Mayflower from Boston, Lincs. Incidentaly the dogs taken on the Mayflower were used as cattle herding & guarding dog, & some are still used in this role today, they have to be able to bring down a cow without damaging it & hold it till the herdsman gets there.Not all bullbaiting dogs were of the bulldog type. One quiet succesful & famous dog was of a whippet type breed.
When fighting became "fashionable" some "sportsmen" added terriers to their blood lines for the extra gameness and agility.
These type of dogs became the types we see today as the Staffordshire & the Bullterrier along with the Pitbull & American
Staffordshire across the Atlantic. These dogs were originally known as Bull "n" Terriers and didn`t fit any breed standards until the K.C was formed.
What possibly made the bully & staff such brilliant people dogs(only 2 recomended to be around kids by the K.C) was the fact that even fighting dogs were kept in the house(only the rich could afford kennels). Back in those day`s any dog that curled it`s lip at any member of the family would more than likely have been taken outside & received a bullet between the eyes(a lot less sentimentality). This would inadvertantly have weaned out most dogs that were nasty towards humans.
Now before any body gives me any grief, the only reason I know all this is the fact that I`ve studied my breeds before I took the plunge. I in no way believe that dog fighting & cruelty to animals is correct, I just believe in knowing your breeds history & therefore what made it what it is.
Anyway Vodka Vixen hope this has given you an insight into
these breed types.

Thanks Bullterrier, although i didnt feel i needed an insight into these breeds, as i said these dogs were bred originally for bull baiting and not fighting, my OH owned a pit bull (before the ban) so i do know a little of the history but thanks for the information.

The majority of dogs were ORIGINALLY bred to do some form of "work"

Id like to point out to those who dont think Japanese Tosa, Dogo Argentino and the Fila Brasileiro are not mastiffs are very wrong, Mastiffs are a group of breed, which breeds such as above are in, along with breeds like English Mastiffs and Bull Mastiff, Just like Bull breeds are a group name, which have breeds like the Pitbulls, Staffords, English Bull terrier, So no guilt by association is happening at all!

your not the only one whos confused minnihaha. i asked if 'mastiffs' were on the list,as the tread was started saying bullmastiffs were at risk of being on the list of DDA,to my knowledge they weren't at risk?! are they?
i dont like the idea of have my dog on a threatened DDA list,especially when they aren't

But this is about the dda and bsl and its important, why not use the correct terms minihaha when trying to help someone ? English Mastiff would have done to save confusion! To me and a Mastiff is many breeds!

cc22 the whole point is this is not just a UK forum anymore, or should we leave the people outside the UK out?
The bull mastiff in other countries are on the BSL list!

I know I have said this before but please wake up! our govenment WILL take advice from other countries in Europe and our ban list could grow to! as a dog loving nation we need to say no to all BSL as it could be your breed next! below I have put a link to a site which highlights the plight of German dog owners!
http://www.hund.ch/magazin/politik/dog-holocaust.htm
also just a reminder Italy started with 13 banned breeds now they have 92!!!!! banned breeds!

I really thought that dogsey was know a world wide forum, BSL is world wide, this is an Anti BSL section, NOT anti DDA!

ok this is going to sound really dumb,but wots the BSL?

BSL is Breed Specific Legislation

These laws usually place restrictions on breeds or types. Restrictions may take many forms, though typically include mandatory muzzling and on-lead only exercise in a public places, enforced registration on indexes, breed-specific bans and substantial licensing fees. Across Europe, the breeds targeted vary greatly, currently encompassing much of the canine spectrum from Corgis to GSDs, Staffordshire Bull Terriers to Border Collies.

In the mainland Great Britain, four breeds are currently subject to BSL under the Dangerous Dogs Act (DDA):

The Japanese Tosa
The Pit Bull Terrier
The Dogo Argentino
Fila Braziliero
We must, however, also be aware that 'types' of these dogs are also affected. This means that your dog doesn't have to be a Pit Bull or Tosa to be subject to the DDA: it simply has display physical and behavioural characteristics similar to those displayed in breeds covered by the act.

That is one scary list, my baby is on there

i looked on that list too,trin is on there 2!
thanx nissanmad x

You have to remember that the list above is from Germany,But with a BIG word of CAUTION,what Europe does,Britain usually FOLLOWS. Some people will accuse me of scaremongering but you have to remember that Germany keeps adding breeds to their list as do other countries and if they can do it,whats stopping it happening over here?

That's true Steve,
And our government if they see fit can add any breed they chose to be included on the DDA at any given time,this is why we need to fight BSL NOW,not when it's too late.It can affect all breeds.

wot is wrong with some people,b4 you no it every dog will be on the list.
but mr blair will be happy,it means he can tax us all just for owning a dog!

Its very sad but yes i have to agree with you there, these amnesty's seem like just the start of things to come, the calm before the storm so to speak, scary thought.

Especially as i own a so called "Fighting Dog" what chance has he got!!!

i have my fingers and toes crossed 4 anyone in the posistion,or could be ,of there dog being on the BSL.
im one of those people and it makes me 'very cross' 2say the least