"Wolfdog awareness course" General Chat

Was just having a surf as been really busy recently and had a look on CW.
Now Charlie and Shaun are running wolfdog awareness course for potential owners prices starting from £80 a day.
Now if I recall someone leapt on me as they said they are the same as any other dog to own. And I disagreed as I believe they are not for novice owners.
I havent seen any "labrador awareness courses" recently.

Views????

££££.....

Sorry - just in a cynical mood at the moment.

I wonder what they do?
All stand around and say...
ooh look it`s a wolfdog?
or is this to cover him if it goes pearshaped later.

what a brilliant idea. as for the money,how many people buy books and pay for advice in one way or another. with this you would actually be there and what an experience being with all those wolves and dogs.

Great idea!! - we are toying with the idea of running breed seminars for prospective husky owners (not conformation, simply about living with their foibles) and were only going to charge enough to cover the venue hire and teas and coffees (probably round about £3 per head). I realise now that we were missing a major money-making opportunity. If we charged £80 a throw we could make some serious money!!!! The trouble is, would there be anyone stupid enough to pay it?????????????

Mick

Its good sense, but couldnt they just charge for tea & busciuts or somethiung?

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The trouble is, would there be anyone stupid enough to pay it?????????????

Mick




possibly people who want a greater awareness and understanding of this amazing breed.
they are not your usual dog and require owners who acknowledge that and are prepared to work with the amazing minds of these dogs.
who wouldnt want the best for their dog.
not saying that if you dont attend a course then you dont care but education of any kind is good and if its about something you are passionate about, then money well spent.
do you think cm visits people free of charge.
if people were educated about any dog there would be far less dogs with problems.
this is a fantastic idea were the owners are being educated
about the dog.

Indeed - how silly of you to be thinking about the potential owners and not the money!

As to the stupid enough to pay.....when you are paying well over the £1000 for the dog - whats another £80?

But the same could be said of many breeds, rotties are not for everyone, but before people get a rottie from me, they are more than welcome anytime and as often as they like to come and spend time with my adults and learn about the breed, come to training classes, train with one of my adult dogs...go for walks with them,
NO CHARGE for that service... I would rather people came more than once your not going to get a real feel for the breed in one day, being lectured about them, hands on is the best way

all good breeders will offer this for the sake of the dog.
as does cr in more ways than most do.
what this thread was previously about i think is the workshop which is a totally different experience. i believe its about getting back to nature and being with and educated about the wolves and dogs.

For £80 per person per day, it's not a fantastic idea. It's a money making scheme! ;-) It may be worth the money, but that doesn't make it right for them to charge such an extortionate amount.

I think CM probably charges even more, but I'd pay to make him go away myself Charlie on the other hand has a duty to ensure that the dogs he sells go to knowledgable homes. Knowledge is free! If good breeders like Shona aren't charging their prospective puppy owners to learn about their breed from them then why on earth is he?

ETA simuled with you Banji I'd be interested to know exactly what goes on in the workshops anyhow. £80 still seems like a hell of a lot of money.

What have captive wolves and domestic dogs got to do with "getting back to nature"?????

Mick

if it a training day, where people take there own dog, £80 would be ok (steep but ok)

If its a see before you buy one off me day/see if you like them, then thats a good idea, but should not be chargable imo

Its the breeders job to provide information to prospective owners , the amount of money they are taking for pups they have a bloomin cheek expecting people to pay for advice...

Like Mish has said, I don't think it is a bad idea, but charging £80+ makes it nothing more than a money-making scheme imo.

If they were to set up these workshops and charge a nominal fee (someone suggested enough to cover tea & biscuits) then fine.

I can just see the council jumping on that band wagon now too, if your a registered breeder you have to pay for and attend council run courses on how to provide information to prospective buyers...the world gone mad !

as said above, potential owners of pups they are breeding

As far as I know CM is not breeding dogs, he trains them :?

most trainers will charge money,

Does CR run a weekly training class for dogs he has sold?

what exactly does CR do as after care when he sells a pup, just that you state he does more than most...
I would like to know, more so, as if Im falling short of his standards in any way then I can change how I do things.

i think its a brilliant idea the council charging for a breeding licence.for this the council checks that the premises are suitable and the owners are knowledgable in what they are doing and offer advice. some councils already do this,i think it should be mandatory if you are going to breed. why would anyone disagree if its in the interest of the dogs.
but there are some fantastic breeders out there.

Having worked in local government for 30+ years, I would definitely disagree. In my experience, councils are full of bureaucratic jobsworths who know less than zero about the things they are supposed to be regulating. I just wish we would put more money into education so that people were persuaded to self-regulate rather than increase the amount of non-enforceable legislation with which we are saddled.

Mick

Where breeders are registered with the council as a business from home if you like, the council already monitors these breeders...the problem is the people who work for the council and are in charge of monitoring premises, liscences and such like, are not qualified or able to run or operate any such business themselves, so how would council employees be able to say who is and who isn't a good breeder, business ect ?