Hi all, need some help !! As mentioned in my intro, it seems that I'm winning the battle in getting a dog and i'd love to get a Springer or Cocker Spaniel but my wife insists that they molt quite alot... Now she's thrown a spanner in the works by suggesting a Spoodle..... Does anyone know about these ? do they molt ?
Hi there. Its pot luck with any poodle cross. Poodles themselves don't shed but when crossed with any other breed that does, you'll have no idea whether it will molt or not. Many of these cross breeders will advertise them their dogs as non-molting and good for alergy sufferers, but this just isn't automatically true.
my cocker doesnt malt too much my collie x well its crazy lol. As has been said before with a x you dont know what you are going to get till its "too late" ATD x
To be honest, the fur shedding will be the least of her worries. If she has a problem with that, how will she deal with the mud, the slobber, the poo and wee and general dirt and grime brought in by the dog? Most dogs shed...Poodle crosses included.
Poodles do moult its a falacy, it comes off in clumps and most poodles need regular trimming. I wouldnt touch an oodle with a barge pole
I have never heard of a spoodle! Regarding the coat, you wouldn't know what you were getting. Why not just get a poodle, I have lived with one and they are lovely dogs, they do not shed hair, there is grooming involved though, and trimming, you can learn to do this yourself, I do know someone that has a young poodle who decided to let its coat grow, she grooms it regularly instead, when she met someone with a poodle cross it didn't look a patch on hers, he paid twice as much and he was green with envy! The other consideration is the health testing, you need to research both breeds involved, it could be difficult to find one with the appropriate tests in place, the majority of people who do these crosses are not concerned with these issues.
It's my fervent wish that you avoid all "designer" cross bred dogs. These dogs are usually bred only for the money the breeders (and I use the term loosely) can make out of anyone daft enough to part with hundreds of pounds (and this includes you, potentially) for what is nothing more than a mongrel. You can pick up a nice healthy mongrel from any rescue centre - there are literally hundreds and hundreds to choose from. These dogs are just as worthy of a nice home as any other, in fact more so in the majority of cases. Please, give this post some thought before you throw money at yet another money-grabbing "breeder".
This is a very valid point. It sounds to me like your wife is putting up far too many objections. If she cannot deal with all the aspects of owning a dog, and this includes the mess (espcially that "special" kind that comes with being unwell) then talking her into having one will do the dog no favours - she may end up resenting it. Personally, I wouldn't have one if my other half were that against it.
Nobody has said that she's against it, just preferes to have a minimal shedding dog. Valid points about the money making designer dogs by so called breeders and also taken on board about the fact that a majority of dogs DO molt... Trouble is, my ideal dog just happens to be probabley one of the nuttiest beeds around but I love them to its
99% of first crosses will moult. A few slightly but most will shed buckets. As others have suggested try a poodle. They don't have to be clipped and can be left long, which is what many pet owners are now doing and many doodle owners have trouble telling the difference between a long haired unclipped poodle and a doodle. Here is a pure bred poodle. My Terra. Becky
I personaly have a soft spot for 'standard poodles' they often get ovelooked by their name:-( intelligent,gentle and are every inch a 'proper' dog(iv'e known some 'crazy' ones too.lol) and can be worked as well ,if wanted(as can all the sizes)there was a team of s.p's put into harness in the snow.....i heard that they worked realy well and loved every minute of it!
As others have said, you will have no guarantee of a non shedding dog, by buying a Xbreed. If you really want a non shedding and a small gun dog is what you are after why not look at a Spanish Water Dog.. they are fabulous dogs, all the abiltiy of any of the other gundogs, good all rounders and with the bonus of non shedding. Do a search and take a look. Plus you will know you are getting a healthy pup from health tested parents for the same money as you will pay for your Xbreed that probably does not come from a reputable breeder
For what its worth none of my springers moult that much, but i dread to think how mad this cross would be, Poodles aren't the quietest of dogs and putting it with a springer would probably end up with a dog thats off the scale in terms of madness
yes,i didnt think they were too bad on the moulting front:? ....arn't springers meant to be handstripped?
There's a spoodle in the village. He's a lovely looking dog but VERY high energy and a bit bonkers. Why not look at the Labradoodle Trust, they may at have other poodle crosses in and if they're adults then the amount of shedding will be known about. Mahooli do you ever get other oddle types in?
Yep, I agree with Labradork. The dirt is much worse than any hair shedding - especially in the winter, especially with a springer or springer cross. They love muddy water!!!! Also, if you're getting a pup you'll have to house train it and there may well be poo and wee on the carpet (but I'm sure you knew that already ;-) ). If you're interested in a cross breed you could maybe take a look at your local rescue centre?
They are but you tend to find most of the working type don't have that much coat anyway, its the show guys that need all the grooming, and lets face it chances are the person that is going to breed this type of dog isn't going to go out and find a show type dog to breed with (theres not that many about), he's going to go to jo blogs down the road thats got a springer which will probably be a working type,, Meg and Neam, neither of them particularly heavy coated when you put them at the side of Rips Isla;-)
hi,thanks yes ,thats what i meant,not to bad with moulting/grooming (i personaly prefer the working type,sorry peeps)and when it comes to it,just handstripping the dead hair,thats what we did with springers at the hydro i worked at(it was a groomers as well)