Looking for working breed ESS Working Dogs

Posting this enquiry for a friend in Essex. She has just lost her 14 year old girl and would like another bitch.

Any recommendations for breeders

What about the breed rescues? Lots of them there?

There is a breed rescue in North Essex I believe and they get many in including young pups so may be worth a try.
Becky

Maybe able to help - do they want it as a pet, or to work. PM me as much info as you can

God knows how I ended up back at this post but while I'm here.....did you have any joy ?

Could've helped - but never pm'd me :?

Unless you're looking at Rescue - I'd (and it's just me) just look for strong Badgercourt or Rytex lines.

Personally for me - I avoid Rytex lines, but then again that's just my preference. Our dogs are Sprucehill/Bridevalley breeding

I would agree with giving Rytex lines a wide berth unless your a top trainer or wanting a full on working dog.

We have a rescue 14mth ESS full Rytex and were having a terrible time with training her. I have spent the last 6 mths trying to get her not to run off hunting, we have lessons with a g/dog trainer who has been great but when with him were ok and she stays with me, but when on our own shes just go`s.

I had a springer for 14 yrs before her, I new we would have to do training, but not at this level. We can`t go for a walk its training and its keeping her intrested which when faced with me, balls, dummies and rabbit covered dummies or hunting, I have no chance.

All we wanted was a pet that I could walk and de-stress with, I am a pet owner, not a fully trained dog trainer.

As you can tell I`m at total desperation and totally fed up. I hate her on the lead and we have tried long lines etc etc she can`t stay on them as she just rushes around and it jars me and is totally unenjoyable. I am at the point of re-homing her to a working home/rescue so she can `fly` in the right home.

As its just not working the two of us.

Sorry - that wasn't what I meant. We do use ours for working, and are out picking up most days during the season (if we don't take them, my father in law does). I am just personally not keen on Rytex lines for a couple of reasons, and try to avoid it as much as possible, although ours do have them right at the back. They are not any harder to train than any other well bred working spaniel. As long as you are giving the dog enough stimulation, you should be fine, you shouldn't need to take out fur covered dummies etc with you, (although a ball or palin dummie is nice for any dog, and the dog should be walking on a lead correctly, that is my real pet hate no excuse for it. Not blaming you, blaming the trainer, should have had that sorted in week 1. But as for the rest, have you told your trainer, that when you on your own, the dog behaves differently? You see that's the big clue. Please do not take offense but 9 times out of 10 the owner needs the training, and not the dog. Your trainer should actually be training you, not just the dog, and lordy, lordy, you shouldn't have to take a whole gunshop out with you when you go for a walk.

She does walk to heel on the lead next to me very well, in fact that is the best bit. But I feel she can`t just walk everywhere next to me without having a little freedom even if it has to be on a long line. Thats when she is jarring me when she is getting to the end of the line (which she doesn`t much anymore) .

sorry if I didn`t make myself clear. I know its me with the problem not her as she can do it. But how long does she have to suffer with me as I can`t do it!!!! its not through the lack of trying on mybehalf.

I feel that as she has got away from me, she knows she can how do I get back the respect from her to know its not acceptable. I do get after her bring her back to the spot etc etc.

Don't beat yourself up. The more you stress, the more the dog picks up on it. Deep breaths count to 10 - YOU CAN DO IT!!!

PM me - will try to help out as much as I can