Looking for breeders - Cavestie. Questions

Discussion in 'Crossbreeds Forum' started by Bexxy, Feb 10, 2011.

  1. Bexxy

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    Looking for breeders - Cavestie.

    Hi Everyone,

    I have just joined Dogsey, through my search of looking for a cavestie breeder. I have been researching for about 8 months which would be the perfect dog for me, and now I have made my decision i can't find any!!! I live in the North east but I am prepared to travel to find my perfect dog, does anyone know how I can find out who breeds them, I have tried search engins on the net, but to no prevail. Any advice would be appreciated.

    Many Thanks

    Bexxy
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  3. JoedeeUK

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    I don't think that anyone here on Dogsey would want to promote the breeding of "designer"dogs

    I presume you are writing of a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel X West Highland White Terrier. I cannot think of a worse x TBH :cry: :cry: :cry:

    I very much doubt that anyone produsing these X breeds will ensure that the Cavalier is heart, eye & MRI tested & that the West Highland White will come from lines without skin etc problems

    Neither breed is non shedding BTW Westie have to stripped regularly & Cavaliers need regular grooming too. Their coats are the opposite-the Cavalier being silky & the Westie harsh

    Why not go to a rescue for a small puppy ?
  4. Bexxy

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    Gosh I didn't realise that X breeding was seen as a bad thing, for that I'm sorry for any offence caused, its funny how people only ever put the good points on websites, i thought they would have better health being a cross breed, so I clearly haven't researched enough. Originally I had thought about a french bulldog, but they can have health issues too, what would you suggest? i prefer something that doesn't produce too much dander and doesn't shed too much, I prefer not to have a yappy dog if you forgive the expression, nothing overly big or excitable, and doesn't destroy furniture, I know that is a long list, but have you any thoughts, I am starting to think perhaps I shoudl got to a rescue centre, it may be our best bet!
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    Dear Bexxy,you didn't know but now you do.So many pitfalls.Please do go to your local rescue,a true mutt has no health issues at all,well not hereditary ones anyway.While mutts are generally healthy(once they've recovered from whatever neglect issues that got them to the rescue shelter in the first place) the catch with a crossbreed puppy is that you can't be sure what it will grow into.Some rescues,though well intentioned,don't have a clue.You want something small to small/medium right?Look for something 12-18 months old.Full size at that age but young enough to fit easily in to your home with no "issues" to deal with.Dammit!I have a gorgeous little bitch here looking for a home who'd suit you down to the ground.12 months old,16" tall.Sweet as pie,not a bite in her.Know her background,her previous owners were old and daft but not unkind.She's keen on barking at strange noises though so if you have near neighbours she wouldn't be good..A good rescue will ask these things and match you up with the perfect dog.It may even be one from Ireland!Good luck and bless you.You are doing the right thing by checking things out first.
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    Don't they ??? I had a mongrel who had herditary eye condition, a bad heart & hip dysplasia so bad that she virtually had no hips, yes she lived a long life, but only because I knew how to manage her HD & eye & heart problems with the help of my vets.
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    Do you have someone in your home who is allergic to pet dander ?? Even the non shedding breeds have dander. There is no such thing as hybrid vigour in domesticated animals

    One of the "healthiest"breeds is the whippet, not known for being yappy, destructive etc. I love them, never met a bad tempered one. Smart little dogs !
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    what are the reasons behind this cross makin it the ideal dog for you? someone maybe able to point you in a different direction?
    ATD x
  9. TabithaJ

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    Just to echo what others have said: beware of these designer dogs!!

    My cousin went down that route; she got a Labradoodle six months ago. She too was determined to get a dog that did not shed.

    She read several books but none of them explained that while the dog may not shed, it still does need to have the 'old' hair pulled out with a comb - on a daily basis! Either that or be shaved every six to eight weeks - which leaves her 'bald' as the hair that needs to be removed is the layer closest to her skin...

    My cousin says she cannot believe how high maintenance her Labradoodle has ended up being...


    There are sooo many lovely dogs waiting at rescues - my Labrador is from a rescue and he's the sweetest dog ever.

    Try looking for dogs in your area: http://www.dogsblog.com
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    ... a rescue whippet... sorted!! lol ;-) :)
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    I had a dog 8 years ago a mix of 3-4 breeds he had cancer by 41/2 and had to be pts.

    I know someone who owns a labradoodle she is 3 and has hip dysplasia.
  12. krlyr

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    Not true at all. Breed a Cavalier with an ancestory full of health problems to a Westie with an ancestory full of health problems, and these problems can still be passed on to the puppies.
    The reason behind the myth that mutts are healthier is because it adds "fresh blood" - breed, for example, a GSD with a GSD and you have two lines with potential hip problems, but if your purebred GSD bitch escapes the garden and mates with next door's Greyhound, there's then a slightly lower chance of the pups inheriting the hip problems because you've "diluted" the genes that can contribute to HD. Doesn't necessarily mean the pups won't suffer though - and if they don't inherit bad health from the GSD side, they could inherit problems from the Greyhound side.

    Of course, this means that a rescue mutt could be just as prone to health issues - the difference is, with a breeder, you are supporting the bad practice by giving the both money and demand for this crossbreed. Far better to either approach a reputable breeder who does all the right tests and breeds for the right reasons (i.e. not money!), or to rescue a dog and not support BYBs.
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    Personally I would start o have another look at all 3 breeds on your list,

    The Cav X westie mix, I assume you like both breeds to have decided on the mix, or the French Bulldog (they shed) there is no reason you cant get a puppy from all 3 breeds that is healthy and well. just make sure the breeder of your choice health tests their breeding stock

    As others have said its a myth that xbreeds or mutts will be free from health issues, it all depends on what goes into the mix.

    To bake a cake, you need good quality ingredients, the same goes with dogs, you need good healthy dogs in your breeding programee,

    And sadly most breeders of these crosses dont care about health tests, they are just after the money.


    if you want a non shedding breed , then look for one that does not shed, (plenty of small breeds will fill that criteria) dont be taken in by the xbred being a non shedding, its pot luck if it does or it does not.
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    miniature Poodles are reknowned for not shedding and are adorable and hardy little dogs, you don't have to have them groomed into pompoms and if you don't most people don't even know it's a poodle:).

    But generally I would look at rescue organisations like many tears (google them), with many tears you may well be looking at the mum or dad of the designer crossbreed you would have picked up in the pet shop but they also regularly have puppies and as a rescue there are protocols in place that if it doesn't work out for whatever reason the rescue will take them back which is more than can be said for mist crossbreed breeders:)

    You are in the right place now to have all your doggy questions answered, welcome to dogsey. Never feel embarrased to ask any questions there will always be someone ready to help you. :)
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    I know this is a very old discussion, but I have to add I havae never heard such a load of rubbish in my life. I have had 2 cavesties, they are fantastic dogs, yes they can have health problems just like any other breeds or x breeds. I hope you managed to get a dog and didn't listen to all this rubbish, cavesties are fantastic
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    That was a very odd little rant, firstly you quoted the same post twice and accused her of talking rubbish which it wasn't but hey. You then go on to agree with what other posters have said in that they can have health issues. I have nothing against cross breeds, I have one of indeterminate breeding, but the point people were trying to make is, the health issues these dogs suffer from could be eradicated if breeders did more health tests, we're talking both pedigree and crosses here. If you take two dogs of either the same or different breeds that have not been tested to rule out known problems you're just inflicting a lifetime of potential suffering on the dogs and their potential owners and for what? cos you can't be bothered to test, cos you're too tight to pay for them, they're not that expensive, or simply cos you don't give a toss about the health of the pups you're producing. We all know there are no guarantees in life, you can do all the health tests in the world and the dog will suffer from something that can't be tested for, but you can do your best to produce dogs with no health issues and let them lead happy healthy lives. Life is a bit of a lottery at the best of times but there's no need to turn it into Russian Roulette. So you rant away but while Cavwesties or puggles or any other cross may be lovely dogs it's a simple fact of life that many lead miserable lives suffering from avoidable health issues.
  17. Bulldogs4Life

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    Yes of course they do/can. They have the potential to inherit genes for disease just like pure breds.

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