Half staff/half pit bull Questions

is this kind of dog legal in this country? It has been purposely bred.

anything with pit bull in it is illegal in this country!

actually anything that even resembles a pit can be seized and euthanised even if it is friendly - this included lab X staffy, shar pi x staffy etc....

I thought as much..........Now I'm worried. I knew my nephew was getting a puppy & he's got it now & was just talking about it on social network & saying it's half staff half pit bull.
I've only commented saying OMG are you kidding & don't want to interfere really.
They live up North so I'm only in contact via the internet, though I could speak to his mum (my sis in law) he's 22 yrs old & lives with his girlfriend - the most worrying bit is that they have a toddler & a 3 month old baby!

Yes it is ilegal and like already said anything that looks like a pitbull can be seized :-(...But it seems that since the pitbull was banned alot of breeders want to breed staffs and staff cross to resemble the pittbull..

Another thing though, just because the dog could be a cross between a pitbull it does not mean that the dog is going to be aggressive towards them or there child..
No dog should be left around children, and as long as the dog is brought up with the correct training and socalisation, i wouldnt have thought them to have a problem..although with a dog of this cross i think a lot of work will have to go into training and socalising the said dog.

Yes I did think that as it's a puppy maybe it would be ok if it's trained properly. He went to see the litter with their mother when he chose it, I've seen pictures, I just thought it was a staff though.

Maybe it is just as staff, but alot of breeders want to breed pitbull crosses or pass there staff cross what ever off as pitbulls.
I havent a clue why, but its something that has been happening for a while.
I would tell him to be a little bit careful who he tells that its a pitbull cross 'if it is' well even if it isnt..Just takes one person to report him and the dog and say the dog scares them and he can have the dog taken :-(

I think it's that old "status" symbol thing.
and he's just commented on the biggest social network site in the world me thinks!
was just looking at the pics again of it with it's mother, can only see the mother's legs though & I think around 4 or 5 pups which are brindle & 1 beige.
He grew up with 2 dogs so I imagine he is experienced with them. can't help but worry though about the kids!

Thing is..... he might be bragging it's a PB cross when in fact it isn't. However, if someone believed him & reported it, and the dog was seized, even if he has 'papers', sworn affidavits, even DNA tests to prove it had no PB at all in it - if it looks the part, then he's got trouble coming.

So just warn him to keep quiet if it is, and keep quiet if it isn't!

Getting a seized dog back under the Exemption laws seems very expensive and takes a long time, with fiddly paperwork. Just one thing wrong, or the time limit expiring, means the dog would be PTS anyway. He might be under the illusion that he could get it back this way, without knowing the pitfalls and cost involved.

you should only worry about the child if you dont think your relative can properly train and socialise the dog.

Niether breed mentioned is naturally agressive toward humans.

Here we go again !!!! They had better get rid before it eats the baby, because they all do it in the end, That's why they were banned...God I hate this country more and more every day.

I do understand that it is to do with the way they are trained. I don't understand why somebody would get a breed that is banned for whatever reason.
I wasn't thinking of the dog's natural instinct to eat the baby - I was thinking more of a young busy couple with 2 youngsters who may well go & see if Fido likes being poked in the eyes whilst mum & dad aren't looking.

feck me lets all run to the hills a stafford and a apbt are cousins any way and conterary to gullible people read papers like the sun apbts are not baby killers and have the same temperament as staffords towards humans as it is part of the breed ie nanny dog and i bet its highly unlikely to be apbt

Also I have raised babys and toddlers round these dogs and they take more abuse than most other breeds and they crave human attention do yourself a favour and have a look at a few apbts sites or you tube they are not baby killers infact the opposite

tbh, its highly likely just to be a pretty badly bred staffie that they are trying to pass off as pitbull, if he has any sense at all then I would suiggest you tell him they are illegal and he could lose his dog if he doesnt stop bragging about something he cant even prove anyway.

and like others say providing he takes the time to train and socialise the pup he will get a lovely dog if its a staffie

could you enlighten me on a badly bred stafford?? as im sure they come in different shapes and sizes as they did way back

ok i get you.

It did come across as you were worried because of the breeds involved. If you dont think they can manage i would be worried if they got a yorkie

How far do they live from you? Could you not help the out and make sure they are on the right track.

And the best breed to take that sort of abuse from a child is a bull breed, a lab or terrier for instance would probably snap.

you know the type I mean, bred for the money not for the bettering of any breed description. Ie: two leggy thin terrier ish staffies being bred together.

WE see all shapes and sizes in rescue but many of them meet no breed standard I am aware of but both got staffie parents etc - just not great examples.

Thats what I mean - so a longer legged skinny built staffie with a heavier set one might produce a dog that they could pass off as half pit or whatever but is just a badly bred staffie - and also this kind of breeding wont be health tested etc so ultimately its not well bred by responsible breeder is it ??

Ok - point taken! I'm not gullible - though possibly ignorant of the facts & i can't see why he would get a breed which is banned in the UK anyway.
Maybe like you say it's not a pbt

Thanks

Well tbh I have to admit I did think of the breed - due to the fact that they are banned, but at the same time I didn't think for a minute they would train it to be aggressive. They live up North so I don't them often.
I will ask him though why he has got a pbt x when it could be taken if he is reported.

i thought it was just 'type' that was illegal? so a dog can be crossed with a pit but as long as it doesnt comform to the breed standards of the pit, it is legal... maybe wrong though...