Is it an irish staffy? Questions

hi i got a pup from a woman who wanted to put the pup down coz she had kids and was told her pup was a staffypitt when i heard this i said ill have her .she was only 4 months old .and i think all this bullying on staffys or xes should stop as any dog lover know is what you put in to a dog is what you get out .. i have 3 small kids 7,5,3 and my dog poppy loves them and i couldent ask 4 a better family pet/friend shes fab but my problem is she does look like a staffyx sumthing but shes got big paws age5 month just waighs 6 bags of sugar bout 12 pounds and has a elongated face said irish staffy and googled it she does look like one but how can i find out for defo as im intrested to put people stright lol as every1 i know is a dog specailist but come up with a diffrent answer i love her anyway reguardless but ill love to put these know it all stright get me drift

ill put a pic on when i learn how to

Round our way `Irish Staffy` is slang for pit bull cross. If it looks like one you could well get into trouble with the DDA.
Please could you put breaks or full stops in your post as it`s very hard to read - thanks.

I would be very careful about telling people she is an irish staff for the reason C&D said. if she gets reported as a pitbull or pitubull cross she could be siezed by the police and euthanised as they are a banned breed. she doesn't even have to be a cross, if she looks enough like one she will be treated the same, even if she has done nothing wrong.. at the end of the day you don't know what she is, some lab x staffs look a lot like pitts or irish staffs, so i would stick with calling her a staffy cross :wink:

So glad you took her in and it's great to hear what a great family pet she is.

I agree with Reisu, if she were mine I think I would tell people she was a cross-breed, pure & simple!

There's that many different shapes of SBT that it's sometimes hard to tell if they are one or not. I've had 2 foster SBTs and they were totally different weights, heights everything!

Just say she's an SBT

The age old debate on 'Irish' Staffords. There is no such breed only Staffordshire Bull Terriers, which aren't very tall with diffferent shape heads, cover for pits im afraid. I would call her a cross breed plain and simple, no shame in that, you love her and thats all that counts.

This is what a true irish staff is and not any old mongrel that is taller than the average staff and these were worth there feed and were proper dogs that worked and should of stayed too a select few but money talks

The Working Strains of Ireland and the UK.

In Ireland things was slightly different than in the UK as the Staffords were winning rosettes in the show ring as well as being tried out in the badger trails and pit contests, so the result was a dog of good confirmation, capable of doing its intended role to the fullest. Some of these dogs found their way to the show rings of the UK but not many would be seen prancing around the show ring. Most were kept in Ireland until the arrival of the American Pit Bull Terrier and after that the Staffords were sent to the UK in large amounts.

You might have heard the term "Irish" Staffords and how the RSPCA claim that this is just a name used for the American Pit Bull Terriers currently in the UK. Or some would say that it is a totally different breed or cross breed, but as a matter of fact there is a much simpler explanation to the name.

One of the first Strains that were imported to the UK was out of Mr. William Delaney's red line of dogs, since the man was from Dublin it would make sense that the line was nicknamed the "Dublin Red's". One of the men who imported these dogs to the UK was Mr. M. Dann of Plymouth and this line is still highly regarded among the enthusiasts of today.

Mr. P. Western, also from Plymouth imported another Strain. His imports were dogs bred by the Flynn brothers and their dogs were known as the Faranee/Evergreen Strain, which were regarded as one of the gamest strains in Ireland. These dogs are now known in the UK as the Flynn Strain, and then it is the famous or should I say infamous Northford/Psycho Strain, which basically is a splinter of the Flynn line and which has been bred almost scientifically for the purpose of the pit. With the foundation stock now in the UK a large breeding program begun which resulted in the dogs we see today.

These Strains are the main backbone to just about all the "Irish" Staffords seen in the UK today and as far as the term "Irish" Staffords goes, it is just a term used on the working strains that were developed in Ireland and later sent to the UK. It makes some sense to why the term came about when you think of it. Mr. Dann and Mr. Western would use the term on their imported stock and the term just stuck with the dogs, but these days it is being used on any Stafford, taller on the legs or when he is conforming to the Original Standard and as you know, when popularity raises the puppy sales quickly follows.

Nowadays you will find plenty of adds in the paper or on the Internet where people are offering the "old type" Staffords or "Irish" Staffords. Any blue or white dog can be peddled off as a "Northford/Psycho" bred dog and faked pedigrees are being made on a whim.