Hi Mooma... i think i am in the same position. I got our ''beagle'' in March of this year. He was very hard to train, and is doing well. He will walk for miles, and likes to bury his toys in the garden. I wouldnt change him for the world, but my dad had mentioned one day that he thought he was a fox hound, so i had to do some research. He was sold to us as a Beagle, but with no papers. We had no intnetion of showing him, we just wanted him as a pet, so decided this would be fine. He looks more like a harrier (not as chunky as a beagle, and has a longer nose - also think he's not as tall as a fox hound). Im thinkin now reading this forum that perhaps he is some sort of cross. You would think however that the vet would know. They agreed that he's a beagle when he got his initial jags. Thankfully he's not had any visits to the vet recently, although im thinking of taking him to question his breed. Id like to include a photo for some opinions, but im not sure how...
We met someone in the park the other day with a Beagle and what was throught to be a Beagle / Harrier cross. The Harrier cross couldn't be trusted off-lead, but what a lovely dog!! Lovely athletic looking animals - I wouldn't object to having one! Beagle's Mum, if you like email me a piccy of yours and I'll post it up for you: tlhouse@googlemail.com
I adopted a Harrier from the Humane Society about a month and half ago. We live in an apartment so this breed probably wasn't the best for us, BUT we do get him at least an hour and a half of exercise a day and try to give him a run on the bike every second day or so. However, training him has been a challenge to say the least. My boyfriend is so frustrated that he is talking about sending Miles (my harrier) back to the Humane Society. I am strongly against this and think that we have just not be going about the training correctly and consistently. Harriers do not seem to be a common breed and therefore information on training methods specific to this breed are hard to come by. Does anyone have suggestions on the following? 1) When we walk, he pulls quite a bit. Recently, I've adopted a new technique where he gets nothing but praise when he walks with a loose leash and as soon as he puts tension on the leash I run the other way. Needless to say this slows down the walks and makes my heart beat fast but it seems to be more progressive than anything else we've tried. 2) He barks incessently at dogs and seemingly thin air. When he sees a dog, he gets increasingly excited, barking, jumping in the air, etc. Sometimes I think he just wants to get to the other dog so badly to visit that he's trying to get a away and greet them, but more often than naught, when I do let him get close to the other dog, he ends of snarling and trying to start a fight. This behaviour is embarrassing and it's turning our walks into an unpleasant experience. Any kind of pulling, pinning down, asking him to sit, etc is not working. The only thing that seems to calm him a bit is somehow getting him to sit and then massaging his chest, but this makes me feel like I'm rewarding him for bad behaviour. Part of this behaviour is most likely my fault because I haven't always been consistent in my method, but that is because I don't know what works. My retriever, Maggie, never had any of these problems so my training methods for her were quite different. Any ideas? 3) He has separation anxiety. I'm working on dessensitization training right now...is this a good way to do it? Anything else anyone can suggest? I welcome any ideas. Miles is a good dog...I know he just needs the right guidance.
Hi we have been looking for a harrier for ages and cannot find a breeder please could you give me an indication to a breeder thankyou
Hiya, dont know if you would be intrested in an older harrier. Theres one in nottingham the web site is dogsblog.com shes in a rescue and about 3 years old she looks so sweet. harrier puppies are really hard to get they are quiet a rare dog. hope this helps x
aww thankyou could you be able to upload pics thankyou its ashame they are rare they are stunning dogs inside and out also its will be a family pet which we will spend alot of hrs with and would a 3 yr dog suit to our lifestyle quickly thats the only doubt . Thankyou i really appreciate the time you have spent on replying could you upload some pics with some details thankyou x sincerly sehint family
hello we have been searching for a harrier for ages were did you get yours from and do you know any breeders in the uk. many thanks Sehint Family
hello we have being looking for a harrier for ages and cannot find a breeder in the uk! WE NEED HELP SO IF YOU KNOW A BREEDER IN THE UK PLEASE REPLY. Many thanks Sehint family
HELLO WE HAVE BEN LOOKING FOR A HARRIER FOR AGES SO IF YOU KNOW A BREEDER IN THE UK PLEASE REPLY MANY THANKS SEHINT FAMILY
are you sure that your dogs arent treeing walker coonhounds they look very similar to harriers/beagles/foxhounds look up coonhounds on this site and you can see my lovely ladyzara.if you like her there is i think 1 dog left he would be about 10 months old now contact me if you want to know anymore.
Hiya Your dog is definately a Beagle. Unfortunately it is not from a show breeder which is why it looks like it does. When people like the ones who bred him get hold of Beagles, like many breeds, they do not breed to the Kennel Club breed standard. Which in turn means they look nothing like the ones you see on the telly etc. Don't dishearten though. Just because he is not of Breed standard or show quality does not mean he is anything less of a dog. I am sure you will have many, many years of fun and happiness with him. I bred Beagles for many years, qualifying for Pup of the Year in 1991 with one of our own homebred ones. We have been involved with Beagles/Foxhounds/German Shepherds for over 30 years. Exhibiting to high standards. We were also the Officers for Beagle Welfare for a time too, so have seen the results of 'pet' bred dogs. Again, just because a dog does not look exactly like the breed standard says it ought to or it does not look similiar to the dogs portrayed in breed books etc means nothing, as long as the temperament and health is there. It is a real shame that places like where this dog was originally purchased are allowed to continue and once the general public realise that these are just 'superstores' for numerous breeds bred not with the good of the individual breeds in mind but for money, they would not have a market place to punt their stock. IMO Anyway, what you don't have there is a small Foxhound, Harrier, Trail hound.....you have a taller Beagle. Thats all. Beagles are strong willed and can be very fast. He will obviously be faster than the show type as he has longer legs and is more athletically built. Good luck with him and may you have a long life together I have hopefully attached some pics to show you the difference between the three breeds. first image is of one of our Foxhounds (she is currently Top Foxhound puppy in the UK) second image is one of our old Beagles (from mid 80's) third image is one of a Harrier (people can be forgiven for confusing Beagles and Harriers but as you can see the length of leg, shape of head and length of the leathers are totally different)
Hiya Your dog is definately a Beagle. Unfortunately it is not from a show breeder which is why it looks like it does. When people like the ones who bred him get hold of Beagles, like many breeds, they do not breed to the Kennel Club breed standard. Which in turn means they look nothing like the ones you see on the telly etc. Don't dishearten though. Just because he is not of Breed standard or show quality does not mean he is anything less of a dog. I am sure you will have many, many years of fun and happiness with him. I bred Beagles for many years, qualifying for Pup of the Year in 1991 with one of our own homebred ones. We have been involved with Beagles/Foxhounds/German Shepherds for over 30 years. Exhibiting to high standards. We were also the Officers for Beagle Welfare for a time too, so have seen the results of 'pet' bred dogs. Again, just because a dog does not look exactly like the breed standard says it ought to or it does not look similiar to the dogs portrayed in breed books etc means nothing, as long as the temperament and health is there. It is a real shame that places like where this dog was originally purchased are allowed to continue and once the general public realise that these are just 'superstores' for numerous breeds bred not with the good of the individual breeds in mind but for money, they would not have a market place to punt their stock. IMO Anyway, what you don't have there is a small Foxhound, Harrier, Trail hound.....you have a taller Beagle. Thats all. Beagles are strong willed and can be very fast. He will obviously be faster than the show type as he has longer legs and is more athletically built. Good luck with him and may you have a long life together I have hopefully attached some pics to show you the difference between the three breeds. first image is of one of our Foxhounds (she is currently Top Foxhound puppy in the UK) second image is one of our old Beagles (from mid 80's) third image is one of a Harrier (people can be forgiven for confusing Beagles and Harriers but as you can see the length of leg, shape of head and length of the leathers are totally different)
Hi there, We too have a Beagle/Harrier named Ollie. We got him from a rescue home where he was listed as a beagle but its very obvious to see he is not one, He originated from a place in milton keynes called the animal retreat centre which has a terrible reputation. On his "birth certificate" his breed reads beagle so we assume some poor unsuspecting person bought him and his brother as puppies expecting to have a pair of beagles but upon realising they had been duped gave them up for rehoming. Ollie is a fantastic dog and loves being around children, especially our four year old nephew who absolutely dotes on him, He is a very mischevious fellow and very stubborn at times but soon comes round if offered up a treat, i read the earlier posts regarding some behaviour and this is identical to our ollie, But with patience we are getting there. With regards to him pulling and barking when out on a walk we found that a halti attatched to his collar worked wonders and we are now weaning him off this with some success, Also if we do have to leave him at home on his own he has a crate but fortunately there is usually someone around so this doesnt get used to much but when needed he is now absolutely fine in there and even uses it for his evening naps!! I'll try and post some photos of him. All in all he is a fantastic addition to our family and we wouldnt change him for the world.
Brian the 'not' Beagle looks lovely x I have a 'beagle - beagle' (!) who I purchased from dogs4us last April., along with her 'sister' - a Basset Hound, bought at the same time. I was very sceptical about an organisation that sounded like a toy shop and got dragged along just to see what was happening there. Got to say (and I might be gullible) I was impressed with the way all of the dogs were looked after. Over 12 months down the line both my girls are perfect in every way. They are healthy and have such lovely natures (in fact much better natures than my previous Lab who I had bought from a KC breeder as recommended. I loved him to pieces but he could be dodgy, if he took a dislike to someone). On my recommendation a friend who has never had dogs before went to look and came home with a lovely yellow lab, who has also been gorgeous. We may just have been lucky here and I do worry if there are buying from dodgy sources but I have had a really good experience with my two girls.
You've been lucky with your girls. The problem with dogs4us and other pet shops is not so much the conditions at the outlet, but the conditions that puppies are churned out in: the sires and dams confined to small pens (often until they die) with no excercise, high energy breeds being driven mad by lack of stimulation, dead puppies in with living ones, lack of proper veterinary care and dogs left suffering, dams being mated on every season like a machine until her body cannot produce any more, whelping in squalour. Do you ever wonder about the mother and father of your girls? This video shows some of the puppy farms that supply dogs4us: http://www.dogs-r-us.org/undercover.shtml The people that buy from these places are directly responsible for this. I'm sorry if you think this is harsh, but there are no two ways about it. The reason people recommend buying KC registered stock is that you know what breed you're buying, and the KC sets minimum standards for breeding (limits on number of litters a bitch can whelp in her lifetime, not allowing litters to be registered from bitches that are too young or old etc.). There are bad breeders that register with the KC, obviously, and that's why adequate research is so important.
