Mongrels (x breeds) Discussions

ok, your absolutly right, i shouldnt be making sweeping statements without backing it up.

Inbreeding doesn't cause good genes to mutate into bad genes, it merely increases the likelihood that they will be displayed. The reverse of that is the cross breeding decreases the chance (by a much higher percentage, since its unlikely that the other breed will have the same set of 'bad' genes)
Therefore a mongrels hybrid vigour means that the inherited problems of the specific breeds (that it came from) rarely appear. For this reason, I believe that a mongrel dog's life expectancy is longer than that of most pedigrees dogs.

The average pedigree dog owner who loves dogs is often not discriminatory in their attitude towards a cross-breed or mongrel but enter the world of competition and attitudes start to change. Take exemption dog shows: these are fun shows for any type of dog, licensed by the Kennel Club. So why are the first four classes dedicated to the pedigree? Why are the classes that allow cross-breeds and mongrels to enter referred to as 'novelty' classes? Often we get derogatory comments in obedience and agility classes, such as: 'That wasn't bad for a cross-breed' and 'When are you going to get a proper dog'

What i dont like is that there is a perception (perhaps not on here, but it exists within the political side of the dog world) that mongrels are inferior to their pedigree cousins. My statement is rising against this, and telling the world, i believe that mongrels are if not equal to pedigree, then are better.
And this is merely my opinion, stated here for the world to see.

jess since when have mongrels become hybrids ..when hybrids are the resulting offspring from the mating of two different species ...all dogs are the same species so hybrid vigour dosnt come into it with mongrel or crossbred dogs and if pedigree dogs are so unheathy how come mine have all lived until they were 15 and 16 years old and my last dog stafford lived until 3 weeks before his 19 th birthday

LOL !!!i didnt call mongrels hybrids, i used a biological expression...if you were to look it up you would find:

hybrid vigor

Increased vigor or other superior qualities arising from the crossbreeding of genetically different plants or animals. Also called heterosis.

all breeds are genetically different from one another... hence the different traits !

Also if you were to do some reading into domesticated dogs living in rural australia, america, africa etc etc, you would find that these dogs feed naturally, not vaccinated live well into their 20's. we assume 10-12 is old for our dogs these days, and that working dogs should retire about 6-8. its not. this has happened through time, and we have gotten so used to it, we dont think twice.

Here's some of my little boy! Best crossbreed in the world! Anyone disagrees I will hunt you down and give you a good telling!!
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Don't know what he is possibly Border Terrier crossed with some kinda Poodle (might be some Whippet in there too!) cos he doesn't make my niece sneeze. Unfortunately doesn't carry the intelligence of the Poodle along with the non moulting coat!!

AWW he is so beautiful! He looks like he may have a bit of soft coated wheaten terrier in him as they dont molt and are good for people with alergeys. He also has the colour for it and that look about him. Could be completely wrong thou!!!

sarah xxxx

I s Jake relaxed or wot? :wink:

Thanks for that! I'd never thought of soft coated wheaten terrier before, makes sense though. He looked nothing like this when I got him he had no hair, severe dandruff and weighed about half his body weight! Some people can be so cruel, I'm guessing the people that had him before must've been quite nasty to him as he was very nervous at first. He's so friendly that I think they must've starved him before they dumped him cos as soon as he gets out of our house there's a phone call 5 minutes later for me to go and pick him up from someones house!!! You wouldn't think it but he's 12 now, bless!

He is beautiful.

I've known some remarkable crosses in my time! There was Scampie (morte a Heinz 57 than a X!), who was as ugly as sin to look at, but one of the nicest doggy-boys I've met! And there was Fred, whom we called a "Collabraghan" (mum collie/lab, dad afghan)) who looked like a pure black Afghan, could clear a table in one easy movement! Plus the wonderful Muttley, a mix of God-knows-what, who made it to 22 years old!

Inbreeding does, indeed, give an increased showing of problem genes, my Snorri-dog being a good example. His Dad is also his brother (older, obviously) Snorri has the familial blue eyes and epilepsy (probably carried by Mum) and he has a jaw defect, in that his upper jaw is too long for his lower one ("overshot") which resulted in the loss of several teeth. Inbreeding has been used deliberately in the past, to develop a particular characteristic, but, were I a breeder, I'd tend to avoid it as often it can produce a bit more than was wanted!

Poor Snorri! No shows for him, not even fun ones! The judges take one look at his jaw, then ignore the rest of him!

Snorri

in the middle of the mixed breed debate I'd like to add my Mischa (Golden/Lab/Standard poodle/Softie)






mixed breeds are NOT more healthy nor more loving, I love all types of dogs no matter what orgin they have, but I'm not for "mutt breeding"

:smt007 I LOVE YOU TOO MISCHA :smt007

she loves to feel loved

They are all lovely whatever their mischevious parents got up to :wink: :wink:

Mischa we love you too :smt049

This is my golden Retriever x Red/Irish Setter he's 17 and has been my best friend since I was 5 and still changes colour in the summer to lol

Some gorgeous pics there

awww they are all lovely

This is Meatball. His mom is a Golden Retriever/Pitbull x and his Dad is an Australian Sheppard/Black Lab x.