2 irish staffy bitches - what to expect? Discussions

This is the paper that the report refers to -

http://www.akcchf.org/pdfs/press_releases/2004/dogbreeds.pdf

The actual commercial breed testing didn't become available until 2007.

No, there is no breed identification in UK AFAIK. Along with most of the DNA work, patent ends up in the USA, though I think the research for this one was USA based.

But that's not always the case and one prime example of this was our (FL) PRA gene test. It was initiated in the UK and almost all blood samples were generated through this (a few came from a previous collection in Finland), with just one from the States, and the research was conducted at Cambridge University. Then, the gene was discovered to be one that Optigen (USA) had already taken patent on.... so we don't have a UK test!

Waltham Pet Center did a mailing a couple of years ago asking for DNA sample from various breeds, citing health reasearch as one of their goals, but it seems that the publications generated from some of this has been USA based. I'm not sure what's going on there but it is getting a bit tedious.... sorry off topic. Just a bugbear of mine.

Your pariah dog is fascinating. It would be very interesting to know her ancestry and I wonder if there has been any research into Coppinger's suggestion that pariahs are probably from an unbroken lineage of free living dogs, right back to the original camp settlement wolves, rather than domestic dogs turned feral.

Shame about the PRA research (especially after all your hard work). I wonder if it were the case that Cambridge are too interested in the science whereas US are more commercially clued-up? Plus finances for R&D of course...
Eventually, though, DNA tests will become more available to us all at a reasonable price, and accuracy will doubtless improve over time too. I do wonder if it will make many of these discussions over type redundant (in time).

Cambodian Pariahs are (well) off topic, so will mail you privately.

Mary

I already gave you the link !

You gave a link to a news paper.

thanks a lot Pod very interesting read!:-o

Oh you're so right about that! I offered to set up a scheme to help funding, as other breeds had done, but I was told not to worry. I don't suppose the amount we could have generated from such a small population would have been any more than a drop in the ocean to them though.

Yes, incredible to fathom that we're just at the dawn of DNA technology

Yes I did, which is what you asked I was reading !

That newspaper also gives the names of Genetisists and dates etc to the research so you can research the info.

sorry I thought you ment you had read the findings and not just a report about the findings in a news paper. the report I wanted to read was the one Pod has posted! and very interesting it is too!

i have a male irish and he was very hard work, they need very firm rules and are more likely to b aggressive with other dog when older,so need to b well socalised while young...i also have a 6 month old staffy bitch they get on great together but play vert rough and i would never ever leave them alone as play could end up in a fight!!!

i have a 20 month old male irish, he was really hard work when young, u need to b very firm with them...also there more likely to b dog aggressive when older, they have to b well more socialised with other dogs when young, i also have a 6 month old staffy bitch they get on great together but play very rough and some times thing get a bit heated an we have to jump in an stop play, for this reason i would never ever leave them alone together, put apart from that there just like staffys love lots of and lots of love...

You can expect an attention from many people! They look a bit different then Staffordshire bull terrier even thought their past is the same. I love blue Irish staffs they are to gorgeous