Is my beagle too big? a beagle-harrier? Questions

I wonder though mini, if one buys from a breeder that is selling goods that are not what you think, you have a case to lodge?

I agree with the buyer beware though, and these dubious clubs seem to rely on consumers not having done their homework

we just assumed that these were official documents, but i guess we were wrong!
How would i check these KC names, to check pedigree?

do you think i should do anything about it?
I'm just curious as to what the other half of him could be, if its not Beagle, have to get him checked out.
he seems like he's too small for a foxhound cross

If you type the registered name in the box it will show you the inbreeding score for that dog. You will see that the bitch is recognised but not the dog, nor your dog.

http://www.the-kennel-club.org.uk/services/public/mateselect/inbreed/Default.aspx?breed=1005

My Other Dog, the cavalier, is not on there, nor are his sire and dam, so they are not KC either?

and i remember earlier i was told that a 'Beagle Harrier' wasn't a breed.
it isn't recognised by the KC in Britain, but i've found this http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/Breeds/Scenthound/BeagleHarrier

Which my dog, Caesar, fits the description. then again he might just be a cross!

The UKC is not British, its American. The Beagle Harrier is NOT a UK breed. You bought a Beagle, unfortunately that isnt what you got. As long as you feel satisfied with the description and explanation you received from the breeder, Im afraid there is little you can do.

I see I see
Thank you for your help, I wouldn't change him for the world
Just curious as to what breed his sire could be

Thank you again to all those who replied

Trading standards may not be interested but IMO they should be.

So any people are being conned by these dodgy breeders into believing they are buying a pedigree puppy. They take advantage of the fact that the owners will fall in love with the pup and therefore not make a complaint.

Your puppy looks lovely anyway.

He's delightful, a bit naughty, but that's just part and parcel of havig a puppy!
I do feel as if I should try an do something, the person was a dog breeder, they had quite a few dogs and could be cheating people quite regularly
I may hav to ring the bloke up tomorrow an ask him of the dogs sire

Contact the breeder and ask for a picture of the sire. Or contact details so you can get in touch with them. If somebody used my stud dog and wanted to see him or asked for pictures, Id be more than happy to oblige. Likewise as a breeder, I would have had those details ready for you anyway.

We will have to see what the breeder has to say then!
I suppose it could also be possible that his sire was a cross
Theirs certainly alot of Beagle in Caesar, despite him being a few inches bigger than the breed standard
Or maybe his sire was just a large beagle? I don't know

If you were told he was UK Kennel Club registered then yeah, report the breeder to trading standards.

If they didn't say that, and their description is otherwise accurate you may not have a legal case.

If they told you he is a pure Beagle, then I would ask the breeder for proof that both his parents are Beagle.

Tbh, I would contact trading standards anyway - if enough people do then they may be more inclined to investigate.

I will contact the breeder tomorrow, lets see if he can prove that he's a pure beagle otherwise he'll certainly be getting reported
On the certificate, my dog is listed as a beagle. As are his sire and dam

I own beagles but also foster for beagle welfare sometimes and am in a group called beaglesuk which has beagles/ harriers of all shapes and sizes ,sometimes a working type beagle which won't be registered can be taller with shorter ears . Where about in brum are you ? We live in pelsall walsall and walk in Sutton park at weekends only place we can let them offlead

I See, so he Could be a worker one?
We live in Walsall usually take him to arboreutum for his walks

Have you come across dogs like him before?

if he was working type, he would have been bred to type, i.e both parents working type.

But you said you saw the dam, and I assume since you think he is to big, the dam was the KC (small) type.

So again, if you were told he was a Beagle, the sort you expected , then the breeder is not being truthful/

I must have seen you in there, I live just off the broadway!!