Opinions on 'craze' crossbreeds? Discussions

Sadly yes, what's considered new and rare today might be old hat by tomorrow. Sad, but true and it’s usually how you can quickly weed out the good from the bad. If they’re developing cross breed after cross breed...A good breeder will usually stick behind their cross breed no?

So saying that, over the generations one would assume they would try to get recognition for their breed, if it’s successful is another thing. But I say good on them if they’re doing things properly.

Once again sadly, people will still do as they want or please, so IMO I think a breeding licence as great an idea would be pointless in the long run.

I agree, I think some breeders should take a step back and ask themselves is what they’re doing ethical. Having seen a ‘Teacup’ Poodle for sale recently for £900 I cant but wonder. If it’s anyway detrimental to their health, if they live long, happy lives then fine, I don’t have a problem. But if they’re breeding sick and unhealthy dogs that’s when I have a problem.

But I think the KC is as much to blame for this as anyone else. what I don’t understand is how they can allow some breeds to change and become extreme, exaggerated show types? The traditional Shar pei and the show Shar Pei is a classic example where the “more wrinkles the better” is favoured. The GCCF is as much a problem for this as well, EG. traditional Siamese and the extreme show Siamese, doll faced Persians etc.

That wasn’t really fair of him to say that, because he wasn’t in fact the first person to breed a cross breed, helped to push them into the limelight maybe, but not the first to breed a cross breed I’m sure.

I've seen alot of cocker spaniel x toy poodles, but not any of the mini lab or GR x poodles. I would be worried about any bitches and them possibly having pups too big for them since they carry the genes for larger dogs.

what are the breeds that were used to create the wirehaired vizsla?

GWP & Smooth Vizsla - I have heard it said that in the very early days other breeds were put through but there is nothing to back this up. The Smooth temperament and Wire Viz temperament are quite different.

Doesn't the same sort of scenario also arise with breeders of pedigree dogs though? As you have said, there are responsible breeders, but sadly many are not

I saw somethin yesterday that really made me think of this thread. I go on another forum for poodle crosses and there was someone thinking of buying one so was after advice. They put a link to the breeder they were thinking of using (who shall remain nameless). This breeder was charging 1200pounds for a labradoodle!!! Unless, you bought one from their "reduced" stock which were only 1000!!! Same breeder had labradors for 600pound! I love my crossbreed to pieces, but cannot see why in the world you would charge more for a cross than a pedigree. It makes no sense to me, unless its more expensive for the health tests of something.

maybe rescues should give their cross breeds 'catchy' names. or maybe they dont want to attract the gimmicky owner, given the lifespan of a dog gimmicks shouldnt come into it!

Both of my dogs have been " mutts" cross breeds whatever you want to call them.
Warren came from a rescue and was the most wonderful dog.
Luthien made me laugh though, as a lab x colli he could of been called a collidour.........
Im trying to think what Toby would be a kelpi x colli...
I love him to bits and a very proud mummy it doesnt matter to me in the slightest if he was a pedigree, designer breed or mutt.
I dont think i would go out purposely looking for a designer breed.

One of the reasons that oodles are so expensive is that most are neutered at 6 weeks so nobody else can breed from them!

Fairly confident that "Most" is a bit of an exaggeration. As far as I'm aware there are a couple of breeders who do this. I'm a regular on a forum for doodle owners and breeders and it is massively frowned upon on there to do this as it is far too young. I regularly walk with a group of between 10 and 20 doodles and none of them were neutered before their owners got them.

Personally I think the reason they are so expensive is that people wrongly put the tag of "HYPO-ALLERGENIC" similar on them which makes them seem more desirable. But, as discussed this is often not true which results in people who do not do their research ending up with a dog which is not what they wanted and putting them into a shelter.

I stand corrected, maybe things have changed, but I see these advertised all the time. I find that the oodles i meet vary widely in looks and coat, so find it interesting to talk to owners and see if they got what they expected.

I don't have a problem with cross breeds, but do have a problem as soon as they turn into a "designer" dog.

Some may consider Alfie a "designer dog" as he is half JRT and half Shih tzu, but I see him as a mutt. The breeder didn't charge a fortune, didn't give him a silly name (Jack-Shih I think they are....) and if people ask I say he's a terrier cross or a JRT cross.

I met a lady the other day with a tinnnnnnnnny dog and someone else asked what she was and she said a "Jackuauha" (sp?) and I nearly fell over....

I was actually looking for a JRT when alfie came up, and I just got good vibes from him, and in meeting the people before hand as she wanted to ask me some stuff and meet them etc, and they had both parents which I met etc etc.

If she had given him a designer name, or a designer price I would have steered clear.

I wouldn't get another dog that way. So not saying I agree with it, but I love Alfie to bits and would be a hypocrite to have a go at people getting a dog the way I did.

Quick answer from my family would be no, but they still love her none-the-less

I do not believe it!

I am wrong. I stand corrected. I do not have a Collador. I have a Borador, at least according to this Dogs Trust rescue search! Give me strength.

http://www.dogstrust.org.uk/rehoming/searchdogs/default.aspx

Would you believe what the owner of a cross-breed said to me the other afternoon? We were walking along on Cherry's favourite walk and met a lady with a Patterdale cross JRT and were chatting and she asked how old Cherry was and I said 10. She said that she was doing really well to be alive still at this age as she was a pedigree! She watched her and said she looked quite fit and I said yes she was , some pedigree breeders are actually quite good and do health checks and Cherry was fine apart from her cataract problems which may or may not be breed related-they can't tell as Kerries are quite rare.

I think we could take a guess as to which tv programme she had seen about pedigree dogs.........

I saw Goldendoodles for sale at £995

Award for the most hilarious name ever given to a dog- Confetti Schnauzer

The worst- Brat= Boston Terrier x American Rat Terrier


My favourite is the St Berdoodle, it's, it's like a giant bear.




I don't think I've ever seen a bad poodle cross and I didn't even know there was a Designer Dogs Kennel Club

A friend of mine has just told me their neighbour has a "Spandoodle" I am waiting for the photo..........

I dont think it is just down to that programme, I find it can just be public perception. The amount of people you speak to who are not aware of what to look for in a breeder is just appalling.