Labradoodles - Does Breeding Two Together Work? Discussions

What has been discovered genetically (albeit in it's earl;y stages) is that because breeders are selecting dogs with more poodley traits, such as coat they are effectively recreating the poodle and many are coming back as being more poodle than lab. So in my mind why not get a poodle!
Temperaments in the main are good, but that could also be said of many breeds so nothing unique there, but the Labradoodle Trust has had many in with aggressive traits, some have had to be put down for attacking their fosterers, plus some have a very high prey drive and have been livestock killers. So as, with any breed, choose your breeder carefully.
Sadly the doodle craze has allowed deliberate cross breeding to be acceptable of anything with anything and demands high prices that it is now totally out of control.
Becky

Of course to my mind, it's not all black and white. There is one (Just one?) good thing to come out of the x-breed 'craze' which is to mix up the gene pool a little. I'm sure all the furore about pedigree breeds and their genetic problems has some bearing on the continuing popularity for this phenomenon. Which has, btw, been going on for a very long time for a craze....

Of course, that is just one arguable good point set alongside the main bad point which is, of course, greedy people after £££.

There seems to be a difference between the UK ones and the australian labradoodles. That is the impression I am getting anyhow.

Interesting and informative website:

http://www.labradoodles.co.uk/info.aspx?pageid=7

I have a Labradoodle.he's an F1B. He is intelligent . extremely obedient, great with kids,cats, other dogs, doesn't shed and to be honest I can't fault him. I paid £400 for him and he is worth every penny.The talk of "livestock killers" and loads of Doods being put down by rescue is simply untrue.
This is not my first Doodle .I had one previous to all the designer dog hype...he too was a brilliant family dog, exceptionally intelligent and loyal.
It all comes down to training at the end of the day.You have to put in the work with any dog, and any dog can run riot if it is not trained.
How can you write negative comments about a breed that you know so little about.?
For those positive comments...thank you very much!

I'm afraid there are a few round here who have a very entrenched black-and-white view of things. On this particular subject, input from someone with Labradoodle experience such as yourself is sorely needed!

I started this thread because I have a general interest in anything dog related, and I was intrigued as to how the breeding worked. Certainly the ones I have met have had the most wonderful temperements but I was concerned about people jumping on the breeding bandwagon without doing their research properly but I wouldn't condemn the breeding of them or tar all breeders with the same brush.

Since I started the thread the young girl has now got another Labradoodle bitch puppy, who is also adorable but black and curly, totally different to the other one they have, but equally gorgeous. The girl was over the park with her mother this time who was nice and chatty and was thrilled that Leon was playing nicely with her girls. She did, however, ask me how I knew the right time to mate a bitch and where best to advertise the pups...this was what I was concerned about in the first place, I suggested she contact the breeders of her bitches when the time is right to find out whether they need to have any health checks etc., who the sires are so that she doesn't accidently use a too closely related stud dog if she does go down that route. But I also told her about the hard work involved, the heartbreak when something goes wrong and that, although the financial side of things may seem attractive, once vets fees, stud fees etc are paid for, it may not look such a good thing, especially if they end up being out of pocket. I also had waiting lists for my pups so couldn't help her with advertising, I suggested she speak to her breeders about that too.

I was somewhat alarmed that the new pup was just 8 weeks old, running free over the park without having had any innoculations, the womans excuse was that she couldn't leave her alone in the house as she would bark I would have had the same opinion of anyone with any breed that showed that sort of intelligence, nbot just because she had a Labradoodle.

It isn't for me to preach to people, I can only give them my opinion on the breeding side of things. The Labradoodles I have met are obviously giving their owners so much pleasure, I just hope and pray that this lady has them for the right reasons and won't part with them if she cannot, for any reason, have litters from them.

I hope we can see some piccies of your lad Linny, he sounds lovely

Always happy to oblige with pics.
Ambrose is an F1b (Mother labradoodle ,Father Standard Poodle) he is 3/4 bred and resembles the Poodle side but he has a lot of Labrador characteristics
I love SP's and I love Labradors...in Ambrose I have the best of both.
Most breeders carry out all the relevant tests, CA testing and Hip/elbow scores.
The public are now becoming educated enough to ask for and see current certificates. They also want to see Mum and Dad , and preferably pups reared and socialized in the home
This pic is a clipped version of Ambrose, I will post an unclipped pic.
Most F1b's do require a lot of grooming. F1's usually have a less woolly coat and do usually shed.
This cross is absolutely great ...if you are willing to put in the time to do your research and train, train, train.

The ones we have met and there are a few here seem lovely, all very different, but seem very bouncy , but they are coming to rescue thick and fast im afraid:-( and i dare say there will of course be many put down-it comes with the territory of designer dogs.

He is gorgeous, I can understand why you love him so much

You obviously know a great deal about the labradoodles...I would love it if you could start a thread giving us an insight, I never realised that some breeders are health checking, thats really good to know, I always assumed the Guide Dog breeders were health testing but never thought about other breeders...you see, there I am making assumptions and I didn't know!

Thanks for sharing your lovely boy with us

I saw some labradoodle pups advertised today, they are up for £950!!!!!

Yep just in time for christmas, :-( :-(

The only problem I see is that people are jumping on the bandwagon knowing that these sell for quite a high price,so of course attract the wrong sort of owners.

I was told by one person who owns a fews doodles that the owners of peds,are jelous as these dogs are becoming very popular so the demand for pedigree dogs will drop,I must say I haven't seen evidence of this.

Popularity however does carry a heavy price for the dogs involved,the Stafford for example is a victim of his own popularity and rescues up and down the country have staffords and there crosses in record number's.

I would hate this to happen to any other breed or type of dogs,yet it seems to be already with Labradoodles already going through the rescue system :-(

Linny your boy is lovely

I have been reading about Doodle Breeds for quite a few months now as I had a so called friend with a Standard Poodle who let the chap down the road use it at Stud on his Lab. 8months later repeat mating being done.
I have read a lot from Labradoodle owners on Doodle Forums and have been very shocked as 9 out of 10 bought their Doodles with no papers, no health tests.
Now some of these people post eg" I am looking for a Stud for Daisy the Doodle, not sure what to put her too etc..."
This imo is a big no no as no papers means they could be mating Daisy to relatives let alone Stud not suitable.
Mainly I have found most breeders pick the Stud by the colour and coat type if Doodle

Breeds become popular for many reasons,usually the latest movie or some pop or movie star has a certain breed ...then everyone wants one. This opens the flood gates to indiscriminate breeding without health checks or the lifetime guarantees that a good breeder gives.
Off the top of my head, I can come up with Dalmatian and Chihuahua, I'm sure many of you can think of others.
The Labradoodle is not the first nor will it be the last to be exploited by the fast buck merchants.
It is not and never has been a so called designer dog...this is just a title given to the cross by the media.
I had my first Labradoodle in 1986 and I loved him for the same reasons as I love Ambrose today, intelligence , loyalty and good all round family dog
The designer label is pure media hype

You do not have to breed pedigrees to be a conscientious and responsible breeder.
Many breeders of Labradoodles are carrying out health tests. If you want to learn more about Labradoodles do visit UK Labradoodle Association website.
Breeders of Labradoodles can advertise their litters on this site but only if they adhere strictly to the code of ethics drawn up by the administrator of the site after consultation with members.
For breed info and rescue please do visit The Labradoodle Trust....They have a very informative site.

Linny IMO Its more commercial breeders of Doodles that are health testing and some of these breeders are churning out LITTERS yearly.
I agree there is good and bad breeders but I am only postring about what I have observed

Quote:

"The young girl was quite proud to announce that she was a Labradoodle"

I know it's OT... but this just cracked me up...

I'm so norty...

To some extent I agree crestnut ....There have been instances where puppy farms have jumped onto the money train where Labradoodles are concerned.....but the same can be said about any popular breed. Puppy farmers are only interested in money, not health or well being
There has recently been a lot of publicity about a certain "High profile " Breeder of Australian Labradoodles (in Australia.) Questions are being asked about breeding under age , back to back litters,and questionable parentage., conditions for the dogs etc; etc:
All this is totally unexceptable

Here in the UK people are slowly becomings aware of health certificates and are asking the right questions before purchasing their pup and MOST reputable breeders are happy to adhere to the breeders code and carry out all necessary health checks
If you are considering buying any pup, surely the onus
is on you as a buyer, to research the breed and ask all the pertinent questions before you buy?
I am on a waiting list for a pup, I have seen all the relevant certificates, I know all about the sire and dam and the breeder is breeding this litter for a list of new owners.
There has to be at least fourteen on the waiting list before the breeder will even consider breeding the bitch....so I might have to wait until late next year. if there are only ten pups in the litter then four of us might well be disappointed but remain top of list for a future litter or referred to another breeders list
I am very happy to do this as I know this pup will be given the best possible start in life, it will be very much wanted by me and my breeder will take responsibility for the pup for the rest of it's life. If anything should happen to me then pup goes back to the breeder.....all as it should be in a perfect world