Thanks for the info everyone... So what I can make from most of the replies is that Springers dont molt more or less than any other breeds ?
love the pics!!!! i was gonna mention that too!....but i knew someone would come along with a great pic to illustrate the point.lol.!!;-) ;-)
I would advise against a poodle x springer or cocker TBH, there are two cockerpoo's that come to the park and they are the nuttest dogs i have ever seen. I once described then as springers, on speed, in disneyland at christmas (nice little friends ref!) and they are still the same. The lady that owns them bearly seems to cope. My brother in law owns 4 working springers and they moult less then his luchers or my NI. As they live outside they do get a bit more of a thicker coat in the winter which is shed in the spring time though.
I think that's about right. One thing that I have noticed from helping clean out rescue kennels is that shorter haired dogs (e.g. labs, rottis, JRTs) seem to molt more - there is always far more hair to brush up in those kennels than some of the longer hair breeds.
There is! My friend`s got a Spoodle - at least we think it is. He`s a puppy rescued from a rubbish tip in Greece so that`s just a guess. Why not just get a non-moulting breed? Like a poodle?
This is an excellent suggestion and certainly a breed I would be looking at if you wanted a non shedding dog. That said be aware that being a "water dog", they probably won't stay clean or dry for long! Yes they do and it's a fecking nightmare! especially when you've just done 3 12 hour shifts, get home at 9pm, have to spend nearly an hour stripping/grooming the dog and then have to get up the next morning at 5am to get to the show on time! Aww you have to admit he's just a little bit cute! Re the Springer/shedding thing...... I don't tend to find Isla sheds a great deal, but then I do groom her a couple of times a week so most of the hair comes off then. I also strip her about fortnightly which helps a great deal, not a job for the impatient type of person though it has to be said! Isla sheds the most when she's coming into season and tbh our old Lab used to shed more with the seasons. That said all dogs are individuals and you'd still have to put up with the mud magnets that most gundog breeds are.
Just had a very good conversation with my wifes friend who we dont see that much and she has a 1yr old Springer, she's told us of the pros and cons... And have decided thats the dog I've always wanted so we're going down that route. Wifey is happy that I'll be doing all the grooming and bathing etc. We have one more holiday planned this year which is next week and then we'll start actively looking for a puppy.
What is your working situation like out of curiosity? Springers are very full on, intense dogs, especially as puppies. Many of the members that own them here will be more then happy to tell you about that (*cough* Pidge ). They don't take kindly to being left for long as they are busy dogs...always looking for something to do. Although I don't own a Springer, one of my dogs is very much like that in temperament (busy, busy, busy) and she is like a full time job in herself. If you are still determined to get a Springer, I strongly suggest a show type one over a working type one as a family pet.
Thanks for the advice ladradork, wife is home most of the day so no problem there. As for which type ei Show or Working, I'll go for the latter as I'll be training it to retrieve to gun ( fingers crossed ) as I have access to over 1000 acres of shooting rights, thats why it had to be some sort of gundog / retriever type.
Well if you want a retriever, you are better off getting a retriever of some description. A Springers heart really lies in beating.
Aw, Billy is lovely! But you have to agree that he's from a different background with him being a rescue and they didn't actually pay a small fortune for what is essentially a designer crossbreed. Ps. I have a Basollie.
Labradork - As I do both ( beating and shooting ) occasionally, better to go for something that has both abilities... My wife and a Reteiver when she was a kid and she's insistant that she doesnt want one of those again.. Dont throw any more spanners in the works as I'm sold on Spaniels
Right, fair play. How will your wife feel about the mess? Springers are one of the grubbiest dogs...if not THE grubbiest dogs. They love getting muddy, wet and dirty. The ones we have near me are always caked in mud after every walk, even in the summer. In fact, I don't remember the last time I saw a clean looking Springer. Also, if you are planning to work the dog, you need to think about how the dog will settle in the house when you are not around. I presume you go to work yourself. A working dog will expect a lot of stimulation when it is not out working. They are not the type of dog that will sit by the fireplace until you rattle your keys. Will your wife be able to cope with the demands of a highly active working dog around the house? Don't think I am trying to get at you; I am not. I just think with the breed you are planning on getting, you seriously need to pick your lines carefully. Even if you plan on working the dog (which is great), the dog won't be a fully fledged, reliable working dog for several years. Spaniels are slow to mature and can be difficult in some respects with regard to training. Unlike most Retrievers, steadiness isn't in their genes and they require more intense training. They want to be on the move all the time. Before the dog is fully trained, you will have a real challenge on your hands. Just something to think about.