NIS - What happens now? Controversial

Luz you have my support - I know exactly what you are going through and the dirty, underhand tactics of the NIS.

I am pleased you have seen the light and seen them for what they really are.

This has happened time and and time again - and its about time people saw the common denominator.

I think this sums it up for me!

Luz and I have crossed swords before as most of you know, however I know she isnt liar and what she is saying is correct. Good on her for standing up for those who have no choice, those who are lied to.

I dont know who is feeding you that information but prove it and I will hold my hands up, but this is untrue, I never got involved with the other forum.


Regarding posting relevant to dogsey, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Its not for me to stop that.

And I am not pointing anyone to another forum by my comments I only made referral to the old forum of the nis.

And I dont want any sympathy thanks Im a big strong girl now. ;-) ;-)

To get back to Dawns original question:?

I guess , what happens now is another round of back biting, bickering, brake away groups, new breeds .

No wonder these dogs will never be recognized...by the KC, as with each argument/fall out, there rises from the ashes another "type" and another committee , all with their own interpretation on what should be!!

I have to say as just an ordinary NI owner I admire the stance Luz has taken. There were clearly issues going on that she needed to address and good on her for addressing them and sticking to what she so strongly believed in.

I also strongly disagree with what the NIS have done, it was completely and utterly wrong to just start another forum and avoid the issues. For a Society that has had so many accusations of secrecy and issue avoidance levelled at it, I would have thought it was about time they started to act in way that would not give people the reason to accuse them of such things.

It would appear that even after all these years, alot of lessons still need to be learnt.

from what i have read its hardly surprising is it. this doesnt appear to be the 1st time that someone who sung the nis praises was "got rid of" or left.. then a change of tune condeming the nis. then in some instances rejoining them as though nothing has happened.
im sure theres a few on here who could say "i told you so" but it really is hardly surprising isnt it.

well said the whole thing is a bloody shambles,

I dont deny there are loyalty issues within this type of dog breeders Mini, Ive never denied it, thats why they are in the state they are. Yes it probably was convienient for many to dismiss it, but they cant now can they? Although some still try to, everything that comes out will ultimately help the dogs as people are exposed for what they really are. If they can prove their innocence, as I believe in THIS case Luz can, then Im all for it.

I agree, but am still pleased that people are doing something about it now.

Luz- I don't do the politics and stuff that goes with the dogs, but I am always interested in hearing if their are any health issues, that you think have been swept under the carpet or the truth has been hidden about.

Also we all make mistakes, and sometimes we want to believe what we are told, it's called being human so Luz, I admire you for speaking out now xxx

exactly what I was thinking....nothing will change if everyone leaves...

I don't know the entire "other story" but know enough that it seems more and more like friends just bickering and everyone else is just getting caught in the wave. There were rumors of the first forum being threatened/ransomed to close down completely (which is why they went and made a new one)...I, for one, am happy that didn't happen. I couldn't have survived without good forum time for a few weeks...plus I get so many updates about my puppy on the forums for different members that go and visit...I would be a little upset to miss out on that...


I don't see why everyone thinks there is all this secrecy...I was in the members only area and there wasn't anything that I would say was "secret" just people with personal problems that probably wouldn't have wanted their life stories open for the world to see...

I have talked, at length, to several other committee members and have asked the chairperson about all this (as I was quite upset when I heard about this first) and I have to say that my "loyalty" is still with NIS, as are others who have seen both sides...

That being said, I still like Laura a lot, and I have always enjoyed Ian's perspective on things and I enjoy the forum he created...I just don't agree with spilling all this mess into others hands...people who have less knowledge on the topic are going to go away with assumptions that are not fully accurate.

I am wondering why the usual are not coming to defend the nis? This is very unusual?

It is lovely to see you back here, Laura, I mean that, but I recall a time when you were involved with the NIS that you stated that you would no longer post on Dogsey, or words to that effect. Perhaps, for now, others feel the way you did?
I don't know, but it might be for the same reasons and explain why the people to which you refer haven't posted.

I'm sorry that you have felt it necessary to leave NIS and that you are disillusioned. Sadly, I have come to a point where there is nobody in this type of breed - NI, Ute, etc. etc. - that I trust.

We live and learn.

gotta say ive seen so many change their mind in these clubs that i would find it hard to trust them as well.
seems most have more faces than a coin.

Ok sadly I would not trust anyone 100% who is involved with NI's .

One thing that has bugged me for a long time and was one of the 1st questions I asked on the NIS and before I got banned is where are the older NIs.

It worries me where are the NIs over 8 my thread was closed down.

And anything discussed about myself Laura I would like to see.

For once kcjack I agree with you

I also would like to know what happened to the older NI's, but sadly I do not think this is something we will ever find out for sure, as JK is very good at keeping things "undergroud" as it were and I don't think this is something Luz would kown.