Wolf lookalike breeders Controversial

Yes I see your point. "A" means a hip scoring 0-4. So "AA" would be 0-4 on each hip. 0:1 or 2:3 for example. Thats how Im seeing it, but now you mention the 1 and 2 and looking at the ratings site, Im confused again!!!!

It was suggested the AA score was made up, can't remember who by now though.

Yes from what I have read one A is for one hip just like one number is for one hip with the BVA system

Your right though it's not an 0:0 score, but it is the best score you can get under that system, prob didnt need to say that

What about the 1 or 2, do you know what they mean?

Just to confuse you (me) further. I think, A1 is 0-4, A2 is 5-8, etc. In the example I gave of 3:6 being described A-A is actually A1-A2. As they also gave 4-8 UK and an A-A and 7:9 as A-B.

Not sure how it would tie up to UK scores if the spread is something like this:
B1 9-14, b2 15-18
c1 19-24, c2 25-28
d1 29-34, d2 35-38
e1 39-44 e2 45+

It could be a 0:0 score though. Just as it could be 4:4 or anything in between. I wonder if the A1, A2 etc are just subdivisions of the A?

Oh well it does certainly appear to be a proper hip score.

Ah here we go, good old wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hip_score
so AA wold be anything from 0:0 to 8:8 which is a bit of a range, so A1 is 0-4 and A2 5-8. Or thereabouts anyway. I'm sure each group doesn't subdivide quite so neatly.

It does make sense as A seems a bit broad. I wouldn't want a dog from parents that had a hip score as high as 8:8, but if that was the bottom rating you wouldn't be able to distinguish between that and 0:0 (which I would accept ;-) )

Ahhh I think I get you. So are you saying the score shoudl actually read "A1:A1" if thats the case? or are they saying "AA" because it falls into the "A" category?

I could be wrong here, but from what I read into it is still one for each hip so A1:A1 would be a BVA 0:0 - 4:4 and A2:A2 BVA 5:5 - 8:8.

Oh well I was on the right track even if I got the numbers wrong not a bad guess

Bit worrying though if you get an A1:A2 - could be 1 on one side and 8 on the other couldn't it? This scale wouldn't show uneven hips very well. Be nice if they were 0:0 though!

I think the A1 etc is the netherlands system, and the A etc is the FCI's and system.

The wikipedia link shows it quite well.

This one explains it in much more detail, wikipedia imo are not very relyable

Personally IF I was breeding these dogs in the UK I would have gotten them hipscored with a UK system so there are no "possibly" in it!!

its not very nice for the dog though and if theyve already been scored in europe then not necessary.

Neither is being bred 5 minutes after they have arrived in the country..but you seem to have no problem with that!

I agree with you there, I personally would not put my dogs through any unnessersary procedues.

Because the `wolfdogs` in the pictures don`t look like wolves -they look like underweight, very poor crossbreeds. They are being bred / sold as wolf lookalikes aren`t they? or have I missed something? Just wanted to point out how real wolves don`t look like that. if you compare them with the real wolves, there are few similarities.

Neither would I..which includes mating dogs that aren't even settled in yet!

Kcjack, you sad women,
No Batmandy isn`t scared, i know when i ask question i get answers, and lets get one thing straight you sad pathic person i am an individual and i will say what i like when i like and to whom i like,
I have never come across anyone who is so nasty and has to have their nose in everyone elses affairs.
One day you will come unstuck Kcjack and i hope i`m there to see it.
But lets go one better i`m down your way over the weekend visiting my mum how about we meet up and air our differences face to face. And oh yes please do bring you camera and you can take lots of pic`s of my dogs and post them on any forum.
and can right a piece on me and how you think my dogs behave so lets do it.

A very peed off Batmandy