Wolf lookalike breeders Controversial

What is amazing, is that people get ripped to shreds or banned on the other forum for commenting on Shaun Ellis or saying anything they dont agree with as they are a "friendly forum" just go look at the JK thread now, the new one. Its ok for the name calling on their part isnt it!!

What if they have been conned? dont you want to know? dont they?

Those dogs don't look excersised either, no muscle tone...
Its a very sad case that the dogs know of no other life so think what they have is what should be and all they are !
so sad such a shame ...

i actually realised that and thought similar.

But not CW, that always confuses me...

Those dogs are far to skinny! I worry about Ela's weight and she looks chubby compared to them . . .

It may not have a bearing on the way people treat there dogs in this country but it does bring into question the judgement and character of the breeders to support and buy dogs from a kennel that treats dogs like this.

And before anyone jumps on the victim card i have an NI and i'm a proud member of the NIS. I love this type of dog to bits but crossing and puppy farming is going to ruin it and tar all breeders with the same brush.

sorry navajo...compared to, if there isn't a breed category, I think in the begining N.I were compared to GSD hip score

Why post that? If I personally want one that looked like that then I'd move to America and buy a high percentage wolf x, I don't though. I like Saarloos. Although I like wolves I think Saarloos and Czechs are much prettier than that.

I think the NI would have been better compared to Sibes, but seeing as Saarloos and Czechs are a Gsd x perhaps they'd be better compared with those. Anyone know what system they use in Europe, ie, is there a mean score for Saarloos or Czechs?

CW & Ronnie's site were linked until recently, in fact there is still photo's of ronnie's kid at CW with a litter on Ronnie's site with him saying he was impressed with CW facilities. I take that to be that the fall out is quite recent then.
I have seen many posts at forums where Corrie worked with Andre and Ronnie to get CWD into U.K so it seems Andre and Corrie know each other quite well.

whos ronnie and where are his kennels.

Please stop acting so ignorant now Banji, its tiring. If you dont know, search for it! Your answer is in this thread!

Wasnt it Andre's kennel Ronnie went to? Not CW.

wher did that come from.your nice arent you.

Im tired of you acting like you dont know, you DO know, and considering you are participating in this thread, I assumed you had read it!! If so, you WILL find the answer to your question, if you havent read the thread, then you obviously are not really interested at all.

i am genuinly upset and quite shocked.
if i new how to pm you i would.
i dont know who ronnie is and dont have time to through the entire thread to find out.
thought that for a moment there you were going to enlighten me on these people.
obviously not.
i shall just carry on with the assumption they are all great people with their dogs.

You do whatever you like Banji, Im past caring.

Oh and by the way I dont have "time" to trawl through the thread either for your benefit, as I said, if you had read it you wouldnt need telling, there are several references to it.

what a mean woman you are. i was warned but thought it would be okay. i dont know how to play games like you so will not be able to keep up with you and i will end up being very upset.

i have only seen the name ronnie mentioned once which is why i asked.
maybe someone more kind could answer, thats if its relevant to the wolfdog.