Are NI & Ute's Wolfdog hybrids? Controversial

There was a famous experiment with foxes years ago, bred captively within ????? generations they started to look more "doggy" floppy ears & patchy coats,

I've seen that I think, it was interesting if not a bit odd x

Can i ask why you think its funny Jem?
Dont you believe any of the eye witnesses or any of the media coverage or that the NIS was previously called the wolf hybrid society? Not having a go at you just wondering why you think its funny, is it because you think all of the above was a hoax for money?

I haven't voted on the poll as I feel the options are double barrelled, I believe there was wolf somewhere, and if it is from the dog on the T.V then mine have him in the blood line so there is wolf , whether that wolf be so diluted that his wolfy traits are just wolfy traits, then so be it, its there none the less xx

would get the patchy's or wouldn't get I'm not sure what you mean ?

Wouldn't - my mistake!

I assume they meant.. wouldn`t get the patchies.. even though that has nothing to do with wolf content.. that`s through using patchy huskies in the mix in the first place.

I'm laughing because no1 is ever going to know 100% one way or another and like others have said it'd be so diluted now it'd make no difference so its again a moo point having this discussion

I think that you are right that we may never know the truth about exactly what is in the NI, unless DNA profiling makes great advances in the future

but if there was any wolf content in the hybrids that were sold by the wolf hybrid society, it is in the NI. The Northern Inuit dog has only been in existence since the mid 1990's not 20+ years. The wolf % would not be diluted unless the NI has already been outsrossed to other breeds, and is not as we have been led to believe, a pure breed for 20+ years.

But the wolf gene would overpower it. Put a pure Saarloos on a patchy Husky and see what you get...

at first maybe , but not for long!

But its not a moo point Jem as if wolf was used they would be classed as wolfdog hybrids which is the point of this thread, how diluted is the wolf in CWD & Saarloos? still called wolfdogs/hounds & much more diluted timewize than if wolf was used in NI & Ute, can you see my point?
JK cant say it was used or she'd be back in court so all we can do is decide if we believe others there at the time and what we have already heard. What do you believe, wolf used or not?

The word is MOOT not moo thats what cows do!

But it's only approx 20 years so if you say 6 generations.

Thanks Louise but i dont stress about spelling, i'm sure Jem understands the post as she does not stress about spelling either

Incase i'm wrong

Jem would you like me to repost using a 't' or edit my op?

It still confuses me, if true then there is more recent wolf in NI than in Saarloos/Czech?

Where does the F1, F2, F3 etc come in with Saarloos/Czech as I see if they are crossed the result is a 'hybrid'.

Have to admit am getting more and more lost as time goes by :-(

I did wonder but with Moo and Scooby I didnt care to ask!!!!

I quite liked the idea of a moo point myself.

Not lost Tania, i'd say your spot on.

I said a MOO point as it's a cow's opinion therefore means nothing = a moo point!