100% Wolf X Dog Controversial

What Wolf blood? there hasnt been any Wolf blood in the Saarloos for over 40 years has there?

your dogs are modified wolves, without breeding the wolf your dogs wouldnt exist as they do today, so how can you complain if you own dogs.
complain and target irresponsible people who breed and dont do their research and create sick pups.

Are they? How intresting!

So where have I contradicted myself?

All dog breeders have contracts to sign when you collect the pup, try asking any dog breeder how dificult it is to enforce that type of contract. before you ask... What is the point of the contract then? Well to be honest I don't know!

You and others have twisted what I have written on ths thread and others and I don't see why you think it is funny, unless you are just trying to cause trouble.

Point out where i have twisted your words please...

I think when people write things that are inconsistent, people will pick up on it and question it, I dont often agree with Elaine (Inkliveeva) but in this case I do.

your dogs are modified wolves, without breeding the wolf your dogs wouldnt exist as they do today, so how can you complain if you own dogs.
complain and target irresponsible people who breed and dont do their research and create sick pups.

TWICE!!!!!

You show me what I have written that is inconsistant.

Because I have gone back through what I wrote and can find no inconsistances. I have only told it how it is so you'll have to point out what I've done wrong. Except that is stand up for what I believe.

No I'm not getting into that whole genetics thingy, but the last wolf was put into the Saarloos in the 60's and they have been carefully line bred from then so of course they have wolfblood in them

You tell me there is no wolf in this wolfdog.



Now you'll have to excuse me because my dogs need their second long walk of the day.......

Its not a complaint critisism is not a complaint

Ah must go home and look for the wolf in my Ebt, thanks for that ...

Doesn't sound like you know alot about breeding Thoroughbreds for racing either. AI is NOT allowed.

You didn't mention it was thoroughbred horses you were talking about, it is allowed in standard horse racing though...

I know...the guy who's pointers I exercise also does pacing and his mare gets AI'd in April. But as you now seem to understand, Weatherbys don't allow it.

But that is detracting from the original subject somewhat. I'm saying I don't think you can force a pregnancy.

Now I am happy to be corrected but if my memory serves; Humans and Neanderthals were two distinct and different races. Humans were credited with forcing the Neanderthals into extinction. Generally there is almost no evidence of cross breeding between the two though some evidence of cross breeding was found in (I think) Portugal, which was on the edge of where the Neanderthals were pushed to. Interestingly where wolves are pushed to near extinction they will also cross breed with dogs in the wild as a survival strategy. This has been proven in Italy where wild hybrids have been found more commonly in areas where wolves have been intensely persecuted. Also in the USA where the same thing has happened and wolves have mated with dogs or coyotes. The issue that has been raised on this thread is that dogs differ by only .2% from wolves and wolves have been proved as the exclusive ancestor of dogs. Some ethnic humans differ by more than this % from other humans. So it seems a fair comment that all dogs are slightly modified from wolves by natural or artifical selection. Many people who have bred wolves to dogs have done so to improve or develop a breed.

As mentioned already, you didnt say race horses as you say either, what else dont I know much about? I happen to know some breeders of horses who have produced fab horses, one winning the queens cup... I also keep my horses with them, and his wife is one of my best friends,

but again as you use the word either, I assume you think there is more than one area I dont know a lot about,

poss you should have mentioned in your post it was race horses, or been less bitchy in your response.

When Count Buffon set out to write his 'Histoire Naturelle" in the mid 18th century, the first major scientific study of the natural world he wished to prove the theory that wolves and dogs were inter fertile and to this end he kept a captured wolf and a hunting dog locked up together. They produced no offspring, so Buffon concluded that they could not. Now we would see the stressful captivity as an inhibitor (Buffon later changed his mind and the 1781 English translation noted a successful hybridization in London).
Captive wolves are highly resourceful and it has been known for a female to successfully 'bend' a wire enclosure fence enough for coupling to take place with a male in an adjoining enclosure.

Ahhh head down, must have Wolf in it, I get you now, the same old story! Rhubarb!!!

This is a collie/wolfdog, look like a Wolf?


Im sorry, I do think that some Saarloos look a bit Wolflike, but in all honesty the crossbreeds look like crossbreeds, I mean no offence its just my opinion.