"New" NI breed standard, anyone care to discuss, co my head is spinning!!

Hang on Jem, your Isis has Husky in her directly.

But Shila hasn't and the majority of NI's dont plus I didn't breed Isis and I can say with some great certainty gemma's dogs weren't used so I dont understand why she's got on her high horse.
Also the mating was to do with SC who was tida at the time!

Please stop taking my views personally as this is not how they are intended.

Werewolf YOUR dogs have not dragged down MY dogs.

I get phone calls all the time about NI's and behaviour problems, when I say I volunteer for Siberian Husky Welfare I always get the same answer, "well they are all the same"
They are not the same. You and I are aware of this the general public is not and Ive generally found we all get thrown in together as husky types by people that have no idea. I like to keep up to date with NI stuff so I know what Im talking about.

Gemmsie
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Im pointing out why Husky owners would be annoyed at bad practice within the NI when their breed is directly linked to it. Isis is a quarter Husky. Its nothing against any dog, just i can appreciate where husky owners are coming from.

I understand that but your personal opinion is not helping anything is it?
Just because you dont like them doesn't mean its bringing your breed down

So can i hun honestly I can it would get on my nerves if i was part of a husky rescue but decent breeders aren't crossing there dogs.
Isis's litter was recommended by sc to bring in new blood so i think that proves my point.
NIS breeders didn't recommend it and i dont like certain breeds but i dont kick off on threads about them

Very true - and that`s not good, for those of us who care about the dogs but don`t own any of the breeding to be the one`s who are fighting for what`s right, to help the dogs, when it`s the people in the breed should be doing and saying what us non-NI owners have been doing and saying, so why are`nt they ? [ a few are but that`s not enough ! ]

Indeed, yet breeds, [ and crossbreeds of unknown parentage ], were used with no health tests, no nothing, so lo and behold there are problems in NIs and their off-shoots - why has that been allowed to happen, why in this day and age were no lessons learned regarding any health issues in the breeds which were so flippantly used to start off NIs ?

Becaues 20 years of waiting is 20 years too long, nothing was done in all that time and things are only being done, [ or seen to be done ], because of so much hoo haa, yes, mostly from non-NI owners it seems.

Arthur if the people who should have got to grips when they should have - any time in the last 20 years for instance - no one would have needed to give any `outside` input.
Who pushed for epilepsy testing right down to providing details of who to contact and who suggested mass DNA sessions at NI shows ? Myself and Lucky Star.
Who has been compiling details of pedigree`s and health info ? Borderdawn.
Who else has done a lot of history digging to get answers ? [ that NI ptb`s would rather be kept quiet ] ? mahooli.
None of us being NI owners yet forcing hands to do something and long overdue too.
So no, people like us won`t stop pushing and speaking up until things do get done and done properly.

Sorry if the tone sounds as though it`s toward you personally Arthur, it is`nt intended to, it`s sheer frustration at the whole NI `development` from start to now because of the disgraceful lack of any ethics or morals of those involved in developing and perpetuating so much strife for which as usual it`s the dogs which so often suffer.

ok, carry on in your bubble with your new deformed breed standard.

Gemmsie
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Bubble?
Whatever, I understand your points but come on as pet owners I dont think we care about the breed standard if you have a issue with the standard why dont you mention it to a NI breeder instead of slagging off the breed to pet owners

The issue is though Gemma, as I have tried to point out on a different thread, alot of dogs get called NIDs by the breeder, when they are not NIDs. You then get a call at the rescue and our chosen breed gets labelled as problematic. There is room for the NID as a breed, I wish people would be more accepting. Ref the Husky, they aren't the easiest dogs as pets anyhow are they?

I try not to get involved with these things but I have to say that I have never heard Jem refer to Isis as anything else except a cross. Sorry to use Isis as an example here Jem, but by the same token would malamutes be classed as dragging the siberian husky breed down too, or vice versa for that matter, as there are many 'huskamute' breeders out there, many using bad practices I'll wager, using this same argument? If Isis were an NI cross labrador for example, would she even have been mentioned at all?

Don't shoot me, just my thoughts x x

No worries hun xx
You have a good point x

All pet owners should care! Its your breed its representing. Forgive me if Im wrong but this is a thread about the NI Standard is it not? if you do not care why are you posting on here?

Werewolf, thank you for understanding where Im trying to come from (but obviously not getting it across very well) That frustration you feel about everyone calling any type of cross an NI, I also get when someone calls them a husky. All we can do is try to educate the general public to the differances and occasionaly bang our heads up the wall

We do care but its highly unlikely we are going to sink into a deep depression about weither or not our dogs are breed standard
pets are pets breeders look at things differently thats all breeders not just NI breeders

No, Huskamutes drag down Malamutes and Sibes as this is what they are made from. The huskamute does nothing for either breeds.

Ive not mentioned anything about Isis, Its a great name though as I have one sat right next to me now

Pet owners should also know and stand by the breed standard. What do you do if someone is interested in getting an NI and asks you questions? Surely one of the things you should know is the breed standard inside out. It helps explain why an NI is an NI afterall.

Gemmsie
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Yeah I understand that but what im saying is breed standard isn't as important to pet owners as it is breeders, pet owners care about a companion breeders care about standards to further the breed and their lines.

I think i've seen your Isis she's v nice actually i think i've got that wrong the red bitch on your website isi she's nice x

Gemma, somewhat childish is it not We (on this thread) did not write the 'new' BS.

thats the one, she is called Isis but only when shes naughty LOL so its Isi most of the time

With respect, don't you think that is a rather idealistic view? I cannot think of a single dog owner I meet in the street who would 'know and stand by the breed standard' of their dog, let alone know it 'inside out'. While you have mentioned that the 'general public' do not understand the differences between the NI and husky they also do not tend to include breed standards in their bed time reading.