German Shepherds - English v German? Controversial

I remembered I had this in my favourites. it illustrates the different types quite well

http://www.shawlein.com/The_Standard/13_Breed_Type/Breed_Types.html

The german longcoats can compete in Schutzhund, but of course they fail the Breed Survey, because of the incorrect coat type so the dog will have no progeny registered with the SV

yeah it was definantly them, must have been a bad day these things happen. will try and upload a photo later. the pic in my profile is molly as a pup.

okies got some pics .......alot hehe

this is molly she's 6 months now


molly again


afrika a cypriot shepherd (11 years old) and molly:


both together again:

What a fantastic thread with pictures of all these lovely shepherds. And I have to admit to having little knowledge of different lines so learning all the time.
Yogi has a special wow factor for me being Tala's half brother

i had no idea there were this many types of gsd!
can you tell if they are german or english just by looking at them if so can you tell me what you think to this pic? would you say he was more show or working type?
sorry its not a good pic though

basky, molly is stunning! love her colouring

thanks yours in loverly too, i like dark tan

is it more black and sable are workers and black/tan are show???

no idea, hopefully someone will be able to tell us more. if, well should i say when i get another gsd i want one with similar colouring to molly, i love the dark face. will she stay dark? i know some get lighter as they get older

I personally prefer the working types, but not sure of the differences between German and English working types. I like the darker coloured dogs esp grey sables and blacks.

I wanted a short-coat, black and tan....
but came home with this

It`s a good thing Love is blind.

She's lovely Claire.

Hi Laura
as Archer as already stated HD is genetic it as no correlation to steepness and length of croup or hind angulation.
In fact my most extreme WG line dog as 0:0 hips. There are some environmental influences but mainly from time of conception (nutrition, care of the bitch in whelp etc.).
Dogs with severe HD ie no 'ball' or very shallow 'socket' are born that way. with these dogs exercise (free running or swimming) is crucial in developing the gluteal muscles that helps to stabilise the joint.
Your vet needs to read more on genetics and orthopeadics, to me its worrying vets stating false myhts such as this.
For scoring it depends whether your dog is done under sedation or GA, sedation is cheaper. Costs vary from £190 for both hips and elbows upto about £300, obviously cheaper if you just have hips done, but you can have a dog with excellent hips and severe elbow dysplasia so its worth having both done.
BVA fees for submission is £35.40 just for hips and £70.60 for Hips & Elbows.

i think she'll stay dark, all her brothers and sisters have gotten lighter. she was always the darkest. the breeder has another litter if your after one think there is 1 long coated one.
lovely dog claire

She's a proud looking girl Claire

what a LOVELY GSD, for me this is a pet / UK obedience type, gorgeous dog!

Ooh that is great, thanks. I will bookmark it and have a proper look later.

Will that restrict them at all?

Molly is lovely, she looks very much like my Flame's dam.

Thanks Talassie - he is a very cute boy ;-)