Northern Inuits Questions

Discussion in 'Northern Inuit Dog' started by Tan's mum, Oct 22, 2008.

  1. Lucky Star

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    If you did not know Breeze was a carrier - and I believe you didn't, after all, how could you? - how could you know enough to state that you don't believe Nanuq is a carrier?

    Without a genetic test, how can anyone know, given the prevalence of epilepsy in the lines?
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  3. werewolf

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    But Marie, you have said that it takes two parents to be carriers to produce the epilepsy gene, and therefore Dakota' Nanuq's sire is a carrier as there is a litter of NIDs with proven epilepsy and he is their sire. That is why according to you Nanuq maybe a carrier. You have said all this on Dogsey. That is why I am so concerned.
  4. Cheyenne

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    There was not "A LITTER" there was one pup out of many as you well know. As I have said I am going on JS's advise, are you saying you know better than Jeff Sampson?
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    Incidently I heard you refused to go to the JS talk as you were disgusted at what he said on that pedigree dog programme. Where are all these emails, you know the ones where he corresponds with you? Sorry, I meant to say where you alleged he corresponds with you.
  7. Cheyenne

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    Yeh you go on a lot of hear say from you so called "friends" dont you :? who are all pet owners and don't know the first thing about breeding, some of them can't even tell the difference between an NI and a Mal x, since they rescued a Mal x mistaking it for an NI, is that where your interest in Mals stems :?

    Since when are emails the ONLY corresponds, what happened to the phone? :?

    being a breeder I have done a heck of a lot of research, more so than a pet owner would.

    I have to get up in the morn so will catch up tom eve, night.

    edited to say - I dont have to prove anything to you, you dont have to buy my pups if you dont want to, you seem happy enough to buy one whose father throws HD. All of mine that can be hipe scored are, also DNA profiled.
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  8. werewolf

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  9. Cheyenne

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    sorry i didn't mean to ignore you :blush: thought I had replied.

    I did not know about Breeze, or I never would have bred her, and as you know i feel horrid about it!

    As Nanuq goes,I am going on the advise of JS, the likelyhood of her being a carrier is no greater than any other NI, I have done my best in looking into both sides of her ped, and diesels and from whot I can work out it is a good match, as far as you can go with NI's. That is the best I and any other NI breeder can do, but not all NI breeders do.
  10. werewolf

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    How offensive, well it would be if your opinion meant anything:roll:
    Incidently you have bred only one litter, a litter who is likely to contain dogs with epilepsy or be carriers. A litter you tried to sell and then after pressure you gave away. That hardly qualifies you to be breeder of the year does it? Just because your dogs are hip scored , you think that makes you a good breeder? How ignorant.
    What is your reason for breeding?
  11. abbie

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    Right you are a breeder. Doesn't that just make you so much better than a pet owner. Errm no it doesn't. Just because you breed your dogs makes no no more knowlegable than people that do not breed.

    Many many people breed dogs for nothing more that money and have no respect for the dogs that they are breeding. Many pet owners care very much about their dogs and the breed they own and choose to learn as much as possible about them. Saying you have done alot more research than a pet owner is complete rubbish, you certainly didn't do enough research or you wouldn't have ended up with pups with possible epilepsy that you have had to rehome.

    As for werewolf choosing not to buy one of your pups I would say thank god she didn't.

    Hope the patchy pup you have for rehoming that I presume was from your under 12 month old bitch finds a good home.
  12. Cheyenne

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    What makes you think I have only bred one litter, do you know me that well :? just because i have had one NI litter does not mean I had only had one litter full stop :?

    I did not re-home them under pressure, this is you going on hearsay again :? when I had them up for sale how much were they going for? I went on JK's advise to sell them, then desided that still didnt feel right for me so then re-homed them.

    Abby - Nanuq had a litter with some one else who gave 4 out of 7 of them to the RSPCA, they were NEVER with me and I didn't even know about them till they were 3 weeks old, when I did find out that Nanuq had had a litter I cried my heart out. So why/how would any of them come back to me?? I wish that Lee had given them 4 pups to me instead of the RSPCA, cos then they would have been wormed, vacc, micro chipped and I would have done my best to find them a good home, at least then someone would know where each one of them were, and saved the RSPCA a lot of money that could have been used for crulty casses :? From what i am told Lee is helping with re-homing... what a great person for the job... NOT!!!
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    I know for a fact you are lying Marie. No I am not going to explain to you on here, as I and others, were told by a good friend of mine who is not a member on here. Therefore I will not betray their trust and post on a public forum what I have been told, but Marie what you are saying is not true as you obviously know.
  14. Cheyenne

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    Sorry Nanuq had 6 pups not 7, my bad Lee kept 2 boys :blush:
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    I meant NID litter and yes they were for sale in a petshop downsouth and on your website. I will admit it took ages before you put them up for sale on your website, infact the litter was never even mentioned on the oldTida forum you go on or the TIDA website at the time, ummm, attempted cover up.......I am glad you have admitted you went to JK for advice, where was Breeze 'other owner' when all this was happening? Indeed you had her onbreeding terms, strange that going to JK for advice, when SC was the one you were in partnership with. Oh yes that is right, she wanted nothing to do with the litter because of the controversy surrounding it.

    Ref Nanuq, why on earth would you give her away on breeding terms to someone you hardly knew? It is easy to blame Lee for everything isn't it. Seems to me he is your scapegoat.
  16. Cheyenne

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    Maybe you would like to pm me then, no names mentioned just pointing out what I am lying about?
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    Think what you like, you oppinion means nothing to me, there were circumstances surrounding nanuq going out on breeding terms, you jump to conclusions without knowing the facts :? Scapegoat.... so you think it was ok for him to breed nanuq at 12 months old then against my wishes, and hide it from me? I still have ALL the txt mesagess on my phone to prove it!!!
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    No I have no reason to pm you. I have total faith in the person that told me the information and you know as well as I do that you knew about nanuqs litter.
  19. werewolf

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    Yeah I will think what I like. Nanuq went off on breeding terms, Breeze was rehomed when she was of no use to you, Luna was rehomed/sent back to breeder, I wonder who will be next.......
  20. Cheyenne

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    Find out the facts first instead of going on hearsay :? If you want to back some one like Lee who is willing to breed a bitch too yonug, and try to scam the owner out of 100's of pounds, off load his responseability to the rspca, threaten to shoot someone, given his mental illness etc then you go ahead, says a lot about you :?
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    yes when they were 3 weeks old i got it all on txt's and voice recordings :?

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