Northern Inuits Questions

Can you answer my question?

Do you believe (personally) that a bitch is fine after one litter then suddenly becomes aggressive after a second? Then, that being the case, is ok to rehome it and pass that aggressive animal on?

No i dont think its right in respect of your question (which I am answering ) but you intend to breed from your bitch dont you? Absolutely no difference IMO juding the state of the pedigrees and all the crap surrounding them.

No, it was because there was fighting between Breeze and Nanuq, it just wasn't working, one of them saddly had to go :-( but thats for bringing that up for me!

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Originally Posted by werewolf
Dawn, Cheyenne has admitted the intention of breeding from Nanuq next year even though she believes she maybe a carrier of epilepsy, is that responsible, morally right or ethical?

I have never said that and given the fact she will be put to a none carrier she , in my undersatanding from the advice given to me from JS, is ok and will not produce effected. ALL of my pups are sold as pets!

Some breeders do sell on dogs, or rehome them. You may not be like that Dawn but it is the way of the world, personally I could not do it but many breeders do. Look at poor Breeze.


Poor Breeze??? What is so bad about her living in the middle of the countryside and going to local farms every day rabbit hunting???





I bought Loki as a pet, a companion, a friend. I wouldn't have bought any dog if I'd known there was a risk of epilepsy. Does it make it any more palatable, that a dog with the potential to develop epilepsy gets homed as a loved pet?

And what if, despite the dog being sold as a pet, the dog has an accidental mating OR the owner decides, hang it, I'll breed anyway - after all these pups go for £700?

And how will you know which dog is 'just' a carrier and 'non-carrier' without a genetic test?

You are right, I am sure she is better off.

However, I said Poor Breeze because she must've been somewhat confused, with how many homes she has had. You were the one who said you were glad her hips were low scoring (scored after she had her first litter might I add) as you didn't want to have to rehome her as she had settled so well. Or perhaps you have forgotten that

I will take that bet lol

Thanks Mini, that explains things very well .

Unfortunatley thats how many "breeders" view "stock" If it serves them no purpose, they sell it on as a "pet" You see pet people will care for their dogs whatever happens, breeders in many cases dont, or wont probably because they are not financially viable.

I do not know what happened with Brodie and unless I hear it from Laura I do not wish to comment.

Ref bitches in general could she have had a diffiuclt time of it ref the 2nd litter? Could there have been other environmental factors? All guessess/assumptions, we could go round in circles but there is no point as we do not know the facts at this moment in time.

Dawn I am not a breeder and never have been, has someone said I intend breeding from my bitch

That's brilliant to hear, Corrie.

Yes, I've seen it and it sickens me.

Sorry I was thinking of Corrie.

I could show you the advert if it would help, it was plain enough to understand! I knew you wuldnt answer because you wouldnt go against anyone in the NIS!

Environmental factors? like wanting to keep one of the pups instead you mean? or being afraid for the children that may be around?

See above ref environmental. Minihaha has put an informative post.

So you are saying it was Lauras fault as an inexperienced breeder? but she did it again and experienced the same again, or wasnt experienced enough the second time but was the first??? Sorry Nes you are confusing me? Mini makes no reference to "environmental factors" as you do. She does state temperament issues and also that most are more docile post whelping, so what are you referring to?

Until there are appropriate genetic tests and health tests in place to establish healthy lines, why continue breeding for now? Why not invest effort instead into getting these tests in place and being certain that the breeding lines are clear? If it is the love of the breed that drives people to want to breed, this seems an obvious next step to me.

I was not there so I cannot comment on how Laura raised her litter. I was answering your ? , you seemed to indicate that a bitch may not appear aggressive after a litter, Mini's post indicated otherwise. She also pointed out that this perceived aggression may not be aggression at all.