Everyone answering you DO own NI.. they are giving you the good and the bad.. thats what you asked for
You have mentioned in previous posts that you have owned dogs previous to your NI that have displayed similar behaviour, could it be your training and socialisation methods as in my experiences this seems to be not at all like NID, Ive seen many running loose together with no probs at all and they are very friendly with people.
I own a NI and at the moment wouldn't get another unless I was absolutely sure of the lines and health tests. Having said that I would agree with a lot of the above. 1. They moult, twice a year, Jan-Jun and then Jun-Dec so they do either need a lot of grooming to get it out or a very good vaccuum... I do both. I also have cream carpets so the hair doesn't show....and be prepared to find the hair in food, clothes, even rooms the dog has never been in. They also stick in your feet and blooming hurt! 2. They can be let off lead though as are prey driven can go deaf and chase anything, like a bunny or a bee.... but will come back, eventually. Practise jumping up and down, running in the opposite direction and crying like a cherokee indian on the war path... if you can do this in public with no probs then the NI is the dog for you! 3. I would not have on on it's own as they just love company. I have a jrt too which is one breed of small dog who can put up with being in the middle of a bundle. Also if you have another dog with excellent recall, as Tonto does, then Inca will follow for as much as she loves chasing, she hates missing out on anything so will follow him. 4. You need to be firm but they are very eager to please. Inca will try and pre-empt my commands just to tet a tummy rub. She is not food driven at all but cuddles driven. 5. We were told Inca had a snsiive somach when we got her but she's eaten curries, kebabs, anything really with no ill effect and yet can get a runny tum from nothing. I think she has has the real bad squirtles about 5 times in the 4 years we've had her, so no too bad. 6. They can be destructive if left alone. We lost a lino floor and two chairs to the breakfast table, plus she chewed the intergral wine rack and the table legs. She also went through a few walls, and although easy to patch she seems to actually like it like picking at a spot. She often sleeps on her back in the hall leant up against the wall and grinds her teeth against he plaster, and that can be within 10 mins of going out not hours. But again that is very rare now she is grown up. 7. They are very people submissive on the whole, though no dog can be guaranteed against anything. Inca, a spayed bitch, is quite dominant though with other dogs. 8. Exercise, they would quite happily run all day, though obviously limit this when young and build up as the could develop HD. But will also have days when she goes round the block for 15 mins a time and is quite happy though she does have Tonto to go zoomies round the house (need a big enough house for that one)... esp when you're chasing a jrt who can nip under things you can't! They are lovely dogs, few health concerns at the moment, but I wouldn't part with mine for the world. I've just had 15mins of play fighting, growling, leg pulling, pretend ground chewing to taunt Tonto.... now they are laid nose to nose on their tummies kissing each others eyes whilst waggng their tails. Edited to add Inca has never dug, she is never aloof either and will greet absolutely everyone as if she's known them for years. Inca is 4 and has had no health problems at all so far.
The dogs i have owned earlier.. certainly NEVER showed this behaviour. The yorkie was a sweety... the spaniel daft as a brush.. but never had ANY of the issues my NI do. My little cross breed isn`t over affectionate with people she doesn`t know... but certainly doesn`t leg it if someone tries to touch her. Both dogs have been socialised extensively from tiny pups... at training classes, dog meets, dog shows, boot sales, around the town etc. etc.. They got to about 9 months old and started exhibiting all the negative behaviours... nervousness, dog aggression, high prey drive.. wanting to kill cats... even from inside the house.. watching them out of the window.
I have met many NI and all have been really friendly, It just strikes me as strange that BOTH of yours are like this.
Unfortunatley for you and other NI owners, yes its perfectly ok to put the info on, its come from the people that own the dogs in most cases, Im sure any owner will contact the necessary if they need to prove anything wrong. These "discrepancies" Would they be like the "What happened to Shadowlands" discrepancies? Concentrating on breeding Poultry? http://www.oldham.gov.uk/print/view_press_release.htm?refno=MS/PR/CE/213/06 http://www.cieh.org/ehn/ehn3.aspx?id=407 Some people just cannot tell the truth!
i mean the debate on whether the health probs are real or not, it looked like it was getting a bit heated, also as i have already said i am looking for a rescue so breed lines don't mean much to me
i think you find it strange.. because the ones that are like mine.. and there are many believe you me.. are not taken to shows or out in public.. because they are just like mine.. and worse. Many people have told me they haven`t brought such or such dog along to meets etc... because their dogs dislike other dogs or don`t like being in large crowds etc.
Well if she is, wouldnt you think he had an incorrect temperament then? You keep telling us they love people and are really friendly, any nervous tendancies would surely constitute poor character? (Apologies to Abbie here, not implying anything)
Old ground - but as Abbie has clarified Borris is possibly not an NID and also he was not socialised at all from puppyhood to adult dog this suggests environmental reason for his dislike of crowds
True colours again KC... I am entitled to my opinion just like anyone else on here, off to talk to real life people now