Whats going on with NI pups? Controversial

Well I've not been banned - nor should I any more so than any other person.

However, yes, it gets tiring hearing the same old people make the same old arguments that they would even if every answer under the sun were given, regardless of fact or other wise.

I can't speak for anyone but myself but I would be happy with any answer. Could we try that, you might be pleasantly surprised

Unfortunately, I could give you any answer, but it would not necessarily be the right one, so I won't - I don't have the experience I'm afraid.

I can understand you not wanting to commit yourself but are these not questions you have asked yourself either before or since getting an NI?
There are so many owners out there who love and cherish their NI's and I would have thought that they would all have asked about the origins and health. Are you all afraid to rock the boat? I honestly dont understand and I am not trying to had a dig, I just am at a loss thats all:?

I am not experienced in Malamutes but I can answer most questions asked about them!..Because I asked them all myself when I was researching..

So I would think most owners should know the answers..or they are quite happy in blissful ignorance

Join the club!
Not many of us do understand,it's like everyone has been swore to secrecy.

For my personal point of view and opinion - not related to any clubs. Then, yes, like any large breed and particularly given my labs predicament, I am very interested in Hip Displaysia - and will have my dogs tested for my own piece of mind when they are fully adult - Lupi in another 3 months and Kia probably at the same time as having her speyed in October.

However, this is for my own piece of mind because of my KC registered lab's problem and not any other particular reason. Of course if there were any issues, I would share those with the people who took on our accidental litter - don't ask me to share a personal family problem again! - we had an accidental litter and I was extremely clear with all potential owners that these were pets and if I found a problem with the parents I would share it with them first before anywhere else.

I'm not deluded at all. I have had all my questions answered with no problems. There is no secrecy.

This is a question about some particular pups who have recently died. How could that have been asked about LONG LONG before KCJack was a member? The pups in question weren't even born!!!

Yes - it's often used by people who aren't that good with words in place of the WORD scapegoat as they don't realise it's a WORD, rather than a PHRASE.

None of the people I was talking about have been banned - they simply can't be bothered using Dogsey any more because they are sick of being bombarded with conspiracy theories, lies and rumours about their breed.

All the NI people I have spoken to HAVE been proud to give me the answers to all of my questions - have YOU tried talking to the breeders concerned here Louise13?

Well good for you.. was that before or after you parted with your cash

I am referring to ALL the other questions surrounding NI breeding..

Oh well do forgive me.. Aren't you soo clever Evasiveness is another word you need to look up..

Really?? cos if you look on few threads there are a few who have banned under there account names.. its quite funny really all they are asked are questions that should be easy to answer

Well in that case why don't you share with us all the answers you were given then..seeing as you now possess all the knowledge..

Most people on here asking the same questions have asked the breeders/founder breeders/president and YUP.... got NO answers..plenty abuse and evasiveness but NO not any answers

Both!!

Nothing new there then........ ANY old thread will do eh?

Why would I need to do that? Are you trying to suggest my answer was evasive? If so then how? You asked if I had heard the phrase scape goat and I answered. Where's the evasiveness there? Do you always see trouble where there is none?

As I have already explained (y a w n) I wasn't talking about any banned members.

Because watching you guys wallow in your conspiracy theories is much more fun!!

What was that about evasiveness again....? I said 'Have YOU tried asking the breeders concerned Louise13?'. You answered with accusations of evasiveness!! LMFAO!!

You guys crack me up you really do!!

You are really on a roll tonight Sally, aren't you

Ni's deserve so much better than you and your smart mouth

We have all tried asking the breeders concerned, we get conflicting answers all the time, try looking through any of those old threads!

Well good.. You got what you deserved then

if the questions were answered we wouldn't have to keep asking

I am suggesting all most NI owners are evasive when they are asked the "questions"..
I see trouble where there are crossbreeds with epilepsy, record keeping, pups dying young etc etc

Oh I am sorry.. are we keeping you up??

Oh I aint wallowing in anything hun.. I am enjoying seeing everyone failing to answer the questions pointed to them about their breed.. just shows the truth behind it all

Yes I have.. only for the answers not to be forthcoming (and if you had read what I wrote properly then you would have known I was talking about the breeders etc being evasive

Thats good..if I had a breed like you do I would be looking for things to keep me upbeat

Actually I was talking about asking them IN REAL LIFE - by phone, letter, in person or through the NIS. Some people are not so keen to live their lives through the internet - especially during times of grief and sadness. I thought you said you were going to come to the Skipton show BD? Shame you couldn't make it or you could have asked then.

No point locking the stable door after the horse has bolted. There are so many now who really can't be bothered with Dogsey (or at least a minority of Dogsey members who spoil things for everyone) any more. No doubt this will add fuel to the fire of the conspiracy theorists.... I really don't give a hoot - in fact I'm beginning to enjoy the amusement to be had from watching Dogsey's own little tin-foil-hat-wearing brigade wallowing deeper and deeper in their own puddle of fabricated secrets, lies and twisted fantasies.

SOunds a bit like a description for the NIS (do tin foil hat brigades Baaaa though?)

But surely they could still, chat with the majority,, ok I will say some threads are just a war zone, but there are some people on the forum who are intrested in whats happening with the breed, not just to score points and so on,

You're still here, are you there spokes person now? or are you just "having fun" when us others are GENUINELY interested in the welfare of Dogs and actually would like to know the truth?

No I'm not their spokesperson and yes I am having fun. I am also GENUINELY interested in the welfare of Dogs and wanted to know the truth - which is why I was at Skipton this weekend and couldn't think of anything 'more important things to do' than to see the people concerned IN PERSON and hear what they had to say. As I said - shame you couldn't make it. Perhaps finding out 'the truth' isn't QUITE that important to you after all.

Do you believe NI breeders will discuss there bad practises openly face to face Sally?
Yes or no will suffice