Whats going on with NI pups? Controversial

Its up to you if you stay away, but you have to realise that some people CAN see the wood for the trees and wont be fobbed off all the time.

No one will discuss the autopsy report WITHYOU. Which might speak volumes. I can however inform you that both puppies were in contact with a vet throughout their illness and autopsies have been carried out. Whether you get to see them or not is a different matter. The fact that you could even suggest that these puppies had no contact with a vet or that an autopsy was never carried out for the sake of money, makes you a sick and twisted individual.

Hey looby-lou easy on the compliments dont want you over doing it.

So the NIs is for breeders who are in the loop and people who pay the FEE and ordinary members get to see the pretty pics. So people who are looking to buy a NI cant see the health and behaviour section, wow thats convieniant wouldnt want them seeing ill dogs would you? I mean that would dent your profit and you could be left holding pups you cant sell.
And Joe Public see nothing as the forum is yet again hidden.

Sorry but who is to blame for the forum being hidden? You say you have concerns for the breed and want to help make it better but all you are doing is damaging it with malice and spiteful vendettas.

Anyone who wants more information can still PM the commitee, the links to all the website are there as are the dog chat sections where any questions can be asked.

Would also like to know what ill dogs you are refering too?? In the health section its all good hip scores with the odd post about advise due to a doggy accident. . . .

But thats the last i will say about the forum as its clearly against a sticky.

Why hide such great news then?
Maybe just maybe Razcox some new unsuspecting buyers may like an unbiased opinion not just that of a breeders vested interest.

I can kind of see why they made those sections private and not.

I can see why recent sensationalism that seems to get out of hand made them feel it was the right thing to do...

...at the same time, I never really saw anything derogatory to the breed in those sections anyway - mostly it was bits and pieces of ordinary advice and hip score results.

However, I didn't respect the IDA for making paid members only sections where important information would go because I think it should be open to all. I feel the same with the N.I.S forum.

People who want to use information against others will do so anyway - as kcjack said - she only has to ask anyone she knows who is a member to relay information.

I'm glad I'm happy with my dogs and that it outweighs the current online misery!

Unbiased would be great - but you sit on the polar opposite side of the NIS biased fence - unfortunately unbiased points of view seem to be incredibly scarce anymore - it's a shame all round.

This is my last post on here not because I have anything to hide but because I am totaly fed up with it,it sucks!
To put the record straight of course I did not breed my dog BEFORE I had her hip scored ,my vets lost the green paper so I did not want to put the results on the NIS forum until I had the green paper in my possesion.
Zella has a heavy coat not long and silky.
Goodbye... I wish I could say it has been a positive experience but alas like many before me Ive had enough I shall leave you to move on to the next unsuspecting victim.

So if you have nothing to hide...WHy Run and hide???

Hold your head up..

I would be giving dates of tests, dates of results, dates of matings, dates of whelping just to prove my point...

LONG coat, even feathering on the back of the front legs!! Just like a GSD!

Off Topic, hip scoring :

Ursula, if the vet had been so careless as to lose the results, you could have got them from the KC as a copy is automatically forwarded to them for the database Assuming you read this anyway, did the delay also delay the mating ? Or was she not in season until after well after you did finally get the results anyway ?
[ Assuming you would not have had her mated without that rather vital piece of paper in hand no matter how unfortunate the timing - though the uneven score would be an issue for me anyway, I would`nt have considered it when the gene pool is big enough to have plenty of low and even scored dogs to breed from - one would hope ! - but that`s perhaps for a different discussion topic ].

I would think if, for instance, a delay in receiving results because a vet lost them had meant having to delay a mating then presumably you or any other breeder in this situation could have had some recourse against a vet for negligence particularly if missing a mating meant not being able to use a bitch at all if she would be too old by the next season for season ?

[ Modlies please do move this to a new discussion on hip scoring if that would be more appropriate rather than take the thread too far from what it is meant to be about ].

Has it been crossed with a Samoyed LOL

POint me in the piccies direction please??

Its no surprise they have disappeared and hung there heads in shame so they should.

This thread shows just how nasty and foul you people are. No wonder people don't want to come on here because of your little gang.

I doubt many people are hanging their heads in shame - the way you lot go on -you should be. I expect many are far too busy preparing for a lovely weekend with many happy owners and happy dogs, and civil conversation.

Ill be there!

Well anywhere is better than here

We have done nothing wrong?

Tania why are we nasty and foul exactly?

What little gang?? foul & nasty?? show me where I have been nasty???

The Samoyed comment was a joke..hence the LOL after it..

I have a longcoated Malamute and yes..he is incorrect. (his coat is long but it is harsh which it is supposed to be).which is why I would never breed from him...
I am interested in how come if Zella is a long coat that she could register the pups NIS (if long coats are a fault) (kinda reminds me of the patchy bitch being given permission to be bred from but its not correct)

This is Cruiser..(does Zella's coat look like this?)