Whats the difference between NIS and TIDA Questions

Please don't for a moment think that I am attacking your dogs. I am sure they all make really lovely pets, and I would love to meet some one day! Actually there is a NI in my village... he is the size of a malamute and has recall "issues" but is a lovely boy.
The dogs are the innocent victims in all this, no one can blame them or dislike them, just for being here. Just wanted to make sure you know that I am not looking down on the DOGS, just the people who are causing all this chaos.

Blimey Jem, a problem comes to light and you want to give it a rest, TYPICAL!

this has been again blown out of proportion instead of listening to what kcjack has to say why dont u pm tracey when the time is right

DO NOT USE ANOTHER PERSONS MISFORTUNE TO POINT SCORE!!!

The two pups have unrelated problems (which are very different) that the vet has said has nothing to do with breeding and is just 'one of those things'. Any breeder of any breed will tell you not all pups will be born healthy in every litter. The people involved are deeply upset by this as are the people who were going to own the pups. SO LEAVE IT ALONE!

No what i want is a certain member to actually look at the facts first before throwing 2 pups unfortunate problems into the mix just to TRY and make a point

TBH I take the name-calling, threats of legal action etc that I've seen here with a pinch of salt. MY concern is with Northern Inuits, not with this or that member of this or that committee. I've heard horror stories about TIDA members too, but what I'm interested in is how these dogs are being bred today - not their history or stories of how this or that breeder did such and such X years ago. I'm not interested in the banter between factions and breeders. I'm interested in the DOGS and their wellbeing and that of the breed as a whole.

I would like statistics when things like this are said. It makes it sound as though the breed is riddled with it?? When as far as I was aware it isn't disproportionate to any other breed?

What about NI that have been crossed to dogs nothing to do with the NIS? [Not the same breeding]

So are you saying that the pup that dies that had "bleeding joints" was tested for vWD ?(baring in mind most Vets will NOT have seen it) or other "clotting" diseases? Its IMPERITIVE if that puppy had those symptoms.

The other pup Im not commenting on at all, as I dont know the symptoms, nor am I a Vet, but I DO know that bleeding into the joints is a classic symptom of VWD.

Well you can forget that Mys with the NI, a simple yes or no is impossible!

It is not a problem just a very sad coincidence that kcjack has already tried to use as a way of point scoring and been warned about by admin. Thats why Jem told her to leave it alone.

I for one hate the fact that the death of an innocent puppy is being used in such a underhand and horrible way/

Im not disputing what you know what im saying is that the relevant tests have been done this was put on the NIS forum but yet again that has not been mentioned because god forbid the NIS and their breeders might be responsible in what they are doing. Untill you have seen the thread for yourself or spoken to the breeder in question i dont actually think u can comment as u only have the facts from one deluded member of the public!

Their breeding is NOT the same - they share common ancestory which is not the same thing. TIDA have added many dogs (non-Northern Inuits) to the original NIS NIs they started off with.

I have heard of only one NIS NI with epilepsy to date and it is believed to be caused from an injury, not a hereditary condition. The said dog has been neutered, and will not be bred from.

I know not to take it personal The boy in your village sounds like it could be my boy.

I just think on these threads it can cause alot of scaremongering when infact there are plenty of great dogs in good health out there - but the balanced view is good - not everything that glitters is gold but with the same token the breed shouldn't be written off either.

I think people would do better to keep things in proportion - these threads seem to have a way of blowing it all out of proportion.

So the litter was tested for clotting diseases aswell as the parents then after the pup was found to have bleeding joints? By that Im assuming the pup was bleeding into its joints, which as I say is CLASSIC vWD. If not and the vet didnt pick it up, tell them to go to another Vet!

Oh dear, of course its the same. Look at Abbie dogs pedigree, its ALL Mahlek, even the one dog they try to blame is the same way bred as Mahlek dogs a couple generations back, for petes sake WAKE UP!

Instead of asking me why dont u jut get in touch with the breeder and ask her or would that be to easy?

You silly woman its not point scoring you dont get it do you an innocent puppy is DEAD and another is DYING co-incidence I dont think so.

Owner of 1st pup said
"some days she was crippled as she was bleeding into her wee joints, and yesterday her neck swelled up like a tennis ball"

PUP was 10 weeks old

Well for a start, I dont know who it is!

Im horrified, absolutely horrified, that sounds like a heamatoma in her neck, MY GOD these poor dogs, PLEASE get them tested for clotting disorders, if any of you love them at all PLEASE HELP THEM.

Well done u are a truely appalling human being, instead of copying and pasting try to actually talk to people u might learn some new things

The KC have nothing at all to do with the look of dogs - they are the registration company (and at least the KC paperwork is generally correct!)

The only people who change the look of dogs are those who breed them ...