Malamute X Rottie a good breed.. General Chat

Discussion in 'Alaskan Malamute' started by katchone, Mar 28, 2008.

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  1. katchone

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    Malamute X Rottie a good breed..

    I have a Malamute X Rottie with the father being the malamute and i just wanted to post this in regards to the temperament of the breed , I'm not a breeder but my experience has been great..
    His is a beautiful temperament without a nasty bone in his body, a very gentle dog. i am tho a little concerned with the comment mo made in regards to the breed and also would like to learn more about hips getting scored before pairing..

    if anyone could help out thank .....
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  3. Pita

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    Please you have one dog, one example, Mo will have knowledge of many and you can't every say you will breed a x breed that will have any particular temperament, build or coat.

    Glad your dog is ok but for every one that is there will be one that is a nightmare in the wrong hands.

    PS Malamute x Rottie is not a breed!
  4. Muddiwarx

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    A Malamute X Rottweiler is not a breed it is a cross breed and far from an ideal one at that.

    Individual dogs might be lovely but pairing the two could easily be a recipe for disaster and totally and utterly pointless - Mals and Rotts are totally different in character and temperament and I strongly disagree with your post that temperament is "purely determined by the way they are brought up" if this is the case then why are most Rotties similar, most Mals similar, most Labs similar etc etc .... it is in the genetics and every hair of the dog to behave as the animal they are - yes we as their family train them, shape them to the way we want them .... but no matter what I do with my Mallies they will never be the same as my Lab or my BC .... yet all brought up the same.
  5. zoeybeau1

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    Maybe this should have been in the crossbred section, thus I am thinking people who have crossbred's believe they are purebred's and go out and buy these dog's when they could have rescued one.
    sorry if my post is off topic im sure your dog is beautiful what about some picture's.xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  6. Shona

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    I have rotties so can only really comment on them, I love the breed, have had no problems as yet with aggression in any of my lot and I have had them for just over 11 years now, they can be a handful to a novice owner, but trained well they make super calm dogs, hopefuly someone can come on and give you more info on mals,,,,wheres malady when you need her lol
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    As already mentioned malamute x rottie is a seriously bad combination, with the guarding traits of the rotti, and the independant traits of the malamute, many of these mixes do not turn out as your dog may have, its certainly not a mix that should be bred from, just because your dog is fine does not guarantee any offspring will be a replica, if you breed from this dog you could well be churning out extremely dangerous dogs to the unsuspecting public IMO. enjoy your dog for what it is a nice x breed and please forget about breeding from it, as you are not doing either the malamute breed or the rottie breed any favours.

    mo
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    Katchone am I right in thinking that you want to breed your Mal x Rott???

    Please don't!

    Neither is it a breed nor a good cross... Lets just say you got lucky.. to get a good one..
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    Malamute X Rottie is not a breed. Same as my Chow X Rottie is not a breed.

    I love my dog. I think he's the best thing since sliced bread, in fact. However, I would never breed in a bid to replicate him...it would be impossible for a start as he is absolutely unique...not even one of his littermates is exactly like he is. Secondly, his inherited combination of breed traits means that he is not the easiest dog to train/manage...we are his second home as the first couldn't manage him. I don't think there is a big market for selectively deaf dogs with an independent streak a mile wide and a strong guarding instinct ;-)

    Also, it is not all to do with how they are brought up otherwise my other dog would exhibit the same behaviours and temperament and she most definitely doesn't. She is biddable, devoted and eager to please...all exactly in keeping with the traits her breed should exhibit and the polar opposite of my crossbreed!
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    I can't believe with all the x-breeds lying unwanted in rescue centres around the country someone is thinking about breeding more and a very poor x at that,xxxxxxxxx
  11. Malady

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    PLease do not consider breeding from your dog.

    You have obviously been blessed with a lovely dog, but telling people that this cross of these two breeds is a good idea and making a description that sounds like a breed trait, is NOT a good idea.

    Mals are entirely different to Rotts in many, many way.

    Both breeds are fabulous and provided they come from good breeders, where you are guaranteed they have the breeds best interests at heart, you should have a wonderful dog, with a wonderful temperament.

    BUT a cross of ANY dog, (especially when it comes from someone who has no care of breeds in general) can throw up ANY temperament, as nothing conforms to standard.

    Like I said, you were very, very lucky to get the temperament you have in your dog, but it is down to good breeding that mainly determines a dog's temperament. If you look at some badly bred dogs, no amount of love, upbringing or training can get rid of an inherant bad temperament !

    Please do not promote this as a good breeding, and do not promote this kind of breeding as being a good thing, because it will only produce problems in the future.

    Mals are Mals, Rotts are Rotts, both equally as wonderful and fantastic to be around and have as a dog, but entirely different, and mixing the two is a gamble, and we all know that gambling is a risky business ;)
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    Just to add ; you mentioned hip scores !!

    Hip scoring is done by GOOD breeders who want to improve/better their chosen breed where HD is present. You cannot Hip score a crossbreed as the hip scores are sent to the Veterinary Association to be registered on teh breeds' relevant register.

    If your dog had come from a reputable, responsible breeder, they would have also bought their dogs from responsible breeders, whom would have hip scored their own dogs to determine whether or not their dogs were healthy enough to breed from.

    Why do you want to produce more crossbreeds that could have any number of health and temperament problems, when there are rescues countrywide full of them already, waiting for homes ?
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    IMO If you are breeding 2 dogs with great temps and healthy and you have good homes for the pups go ahead!!!I am assuming the purpose for breeding is to keep a pup back yourself? my father owned A GSD x Rottie and was one of the gentliest dogs i,ve ever witnessed. Firm handling is a must though and i would advice if going ahead with breeding not to place pups in novice hands. All this advice dont breed cross breeds is absurd. If you have good homes lined up for pups you are being more responsible than 50% of the purebreed!!!! breeders. At end of day totally your decision.
    cheers kinzy
  14. Malady

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    Excuse me !!! More responsible than 50% of purebreed breeders !!!

    I'm sorry, but that is insulting to all those that breed true, healthy, quality dogs, not produce more just for money, to fill up rescues and continue the vicious circle of irresponsibility :roll:

    The only ABSURD statement made, is saying as long as you have good homes go ahead !!! Maybe if you had done some real research into canine health and hereditary diseases and illnesses, and realised the plight of millions of dogs being put to sleep worldwide, because of irrespnsible breeding, you would think otherwise !!
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    Kinsey your GSD x Rottie had a combination of two breeds that are known for being obedient and trainable, the OP is talking about breeding from a Malamute x Rottie, a totally different kettle of fish to the dog you owned, to encourage someone to breed from this mix is totally irresponsible, I see the end result of this type of breeding day in day out in my line of work, there are more x breeds in rescue than there are pedigree dogs I can tell you for a fact.

    Mo
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    hip scores - i think you can hip score any dog regardless of if it is a kc reg dog breed, i think labradoodles get hip scored
  17. Malady

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    To get Hip Scored the result needs to be sent to the BVA which is then assessed by the panel and the result placed onto the register for that breed. Therefore crosbreeds cannot be scored because there is no breed average and no breed register to place them on !!
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    to encourage someone to breed from this mix is totally irresponsible, I see the end result of this type of breeding day in day out in my line of work, there are more x breeds in rescue than there are pedigree dogs I can tell you for a fact.
    I am not encouraging the breeding what i,m saying is if your going to do the breeding have things in place!!!!

    I am assuming you know what you mean by Healthy !!! Health tests are performed on pedigree dogs to make sure they are indeed healthy, and this does not involve a simple vet check, and these tests cannot be carried out on a crossbreed.

    Health tests cant be done on crossbreeds? LMAO what vet only does health tests on purebreeds???


    Excuse me !!! More responsible than 50% of purebreed breeders !!!

    I'm sorry, but that is insulting to all those that breed true, healthy, quality dogs, not produce more just for money, to fill up rescues and continue the vicious circle of irresponsibility



    The statement is only insulting to the people who breed just flinging 2 dogs together without research in to the lines, Remember i said 50% means 50% are good thoughtful breeders the other half haven,t a clue and probably 50% of that breed for money.FACT

    The only ABSURD statement made, is saying as long as you have good homes go ahead !!! Maybe if you had done some real research into canine health and hereditary diseases and illnesses, and realised the plight of millions of dogs being put to sleep worldwide, because of irrespnsible breeding, you would think otherwise !!


    If i had done research??? test away.lol..as stated if good family homes are found for the pups why does that affect the statistics of dogs being put to sleep? dogs are eaten in some countries is this breeding going to affect that? some third world countries have babies dying every day, do they stop breeding?The only ABSURD comment is that this breeding affects the whole worldwide crisis especially if good homes found doesn,t even effect it...



    Just to add ; you mentioned hip scores !!

    Hip scoring is done by GOOD breeders who want to improve/better their chosen breed where HD is present. You cannot Hip score a crossbreed as the hip scores are sent to the Veterinary Association to be registered on teh breeds' relevant register.


    Totally wrong advice, crossbreeds can be hipscored, I,ll scan the proof if you want? only differ being the KC reg number is left blank
  19. Greyhawk

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    Crossbreeds/Unrecognised breeds can still be hip scored by the BVA - the only difference is that the scores are not submitted to the KC.
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    Edited to add :

    To the OP : If for whatever reason those pups, went to loving homes but had health or temperament issues and the owners no longer wanted them, would you have enough time, energy, money and experience to take them back, as a responsible breeder would ?
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    To the OP:

    You have had some very good advice here, your dog may be lovely however you can not say that all dogs of this cross would be. Love your dog for the fantastic pet I am sure they are, but please do not contemplate breeding from or promoting such a cross :(
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