Questions (What are Northern Inuits like as pets) Questions

Surely you can accept peoples right to choose whatever breed they want! I don't think I should have to justify my choices to you or anyone else on a forum!
I agree that some breeders trade on the wolf image but for goodness sake there are good and bad breeders in every breed! I hate to tell you this but there are lots of bad Mal & Sibe breeders too!
Just for the record I am not a breeder, I have no loyalty to any Inuit group and my dogs do not have wolf related names!
I do have a life long interest in wolves (hence my name tag)but then I also do in dogs, cats, horses and most other animals.

oh I see, so it is just people with an NI or UTE that can't have a username with wolf in it then

isnt there a thread on the NIS forum about advertising NI as wolf lookalikes> 89% of you are in agreement with this - funny that!!

Was it you that said "childish?" Who said "cant" only you! Reread my post, I asked a valid question, if you cant answer it, then thats fine.

so sorry I missed the valid question

and by the way I chose arctic wolf as my username because I think arctic wolves are beautiful

It is also the kennel name of a Malamute / Husky breeder so someone else must like the name too

My point is the NI wasn't a breed until someone decided they wanted a dog that looked like a wolf without traits of sibe/mal, which btw is the only reason we are getting that is logical for why the NI came about, although breeding out the traits of the founding breeds is never going to happen if the breeding isn't regulated properly.

Every responsible person chooses their breed for a reason, any responsible person wouldn't pick up the paper and say "I want that one because its available now". I am not saying you have to justify your reasons, if you don't want to that is your choice, however there has been many a thread on here asking why people have the dogs they have, so it is a reasonable question.

I will not deny for one second that there are bad breeders in many breeds, I can tell you of them if you would like to know about Sibes, I researched my breed and know where the fault lines lie but this isn't about my chosen breed its about NIs and if you would like to get into discussing sibe breeders then open another thread.

You say you have a lifelong interest in wolves, my next door neighbour is fanatical, but she doesn't have a wolf lookalike dog, she has a collie. My MIL is a real Tiger person but she doesn't have a Toyger, she has a tabby.

Not to worry then. :smt002

I bought my dogs in good faith and yes NIDs were said to be good with cats. I have had no regrets. I already said I looked into the other breeds involved. I do not need to justify to you or anyone else my reasearch etc. Zuba asked a question I answered it. If you don't like what I said that is your problem.

I don't see why NI owners have to justify their reasons for owning this breed or what they choose to use as their user names on a forum. In my opinion they are perfect for our lifestyle and I do not wish that I had chosen a different breed.

Out of interest at a new dog training club we have joined this afternoon there was a husky/GSD. This was a beautiful dog but looked exactly like what it was a mixture of the 2 breeds and nothing like our NI's. This dog is a working search and rescue dog and does her job very well. Nobody would have thought of knocking either this dog or our northern inuits even though there were several people that had not heard of them.

I am now taking my armour off and am off to get tend to my dogs! I shall not be posting on this thread anymore as I have had enough of some peoples deliberate rudeness and inability to accept others have choice and what choices they have made and why.

I think we have come a long way from the original question of what are NID's like as pets.
I think I need to withdraw from the ongoing 'discussion' as I now feel it's getting too personal and I really don't want to go down that route.

I note you say Husky/GSD, they were not trying to call it a German husky then? It was just a Husky-GSD cross?

I hope that wasn't aimed at me because I have not knocked your choice once and even understood why you had chosen your breed, I just think you were misled, that is my opinion and I am entitled to it.

People may not agree but I am not seeing any justified reasons for why the NI came about, I have asked questions that some have refused to answer, some have just been ignored. I have seen many NI owners having their two penny worth about designer breeds but I am not seeing that the NI is any different and no one can give the same answers as to what is actually going on within the breed. My worry is for the welfare of the dogs not a personal vendetta against anyone, I do not know any of you, I am saddened that you would take this personally.

Who started the NI breed? Answer me that if nothing else, then we can truly find out what is at the bottom of it all, without having to ask people who obviously love their dogs but cant answer all our questions.

Hi Abbie.
If that was directed at me, let me expand. I have NOT asked anyone to justify anything, my question is one that has never been answered, right from the very beginning of NI threads. We were told on here that the NI was NOT bred to look like a Wolf, we are told there is NO Wolf content in the NI, we KNOW there is no mention of Wolf, anywhere in the breed standard, so why are they advertised as "wolf look a likes" and are portrayed in that manner? Why do owners constantly refer to it in specific threads just about that subject? Im not saying there is anything wrong with it, but you have to admit its a bit strange, I mean its like my saying look at my Border slinking along the floor, doesnt he look like a Ferret, when there is no Ferret mentioned anywhere in the standard. Can you see what Im getting at? Re the username, I used it as a valid point, except for about 3 usernames containing "Wolf" they all belong to NI or Ute owners, my point again being the reference to a Wolf. If one thing is constantly picked up on and bred for, it may ultimately mean other aspects of the dog will suffer.

No it was not aimed at you. I agree you have not knocked my reasons for choosing the breed and to be honest I didn't expect anyone else to either.

Firstly, the bitch I have on breeding terms from our chairperson is the sister of Abbie's bitch and she is hip scored and has a score of 5-5. The bitch that was bred and re-homed by our chairperson was bred by the head of the NIS and the hip score was considered to be too high to be used again.

The dog referred to that our chairperson had was not a rescue but was purchased, he was only used at stud twice and then was re-homed. Although his hip score wasn't much more than the mean score it was considered to be too high, as I have said we are aiming at reducing the score, he was pts as he had a brain tumour. This dog was also bred by the head of the NIS, whereas the bitches I have are bred by the head of TIDA and are low scoring.

No one mentioned WereWolfs dog and if she does have a vet report then why isn't she sharing the information it is this data that is needed to help the breed.

It was stated that TIDA are crossing their NI with other breeds, we are not, we are only considering which breeds to reintroduce but haven't done it yet. This is why we now have a breeders committee.

There are many many instances of past father to daughter, mother to son, brother to sister matings that were done in the past, we need to get new blood to give the breed a chance to develop and not to die out. Whether it takes, 5, 10, 15 or 20 years, it needs to be planned and done right and will be worth it in the end to have a healthy viable breed.

Oh and puppies were fostered since certain people were slagging TIDA breeders and therefore affected the ability to home puppies, it was the responsible thing to do to foster puppies out so that they could be socialised away from the family pack and therefore be more confident and sociable puppies when they did go to new homes. TIDA is not short of breeders, you only have to look on the websites and compare numbers to see where the breeders are.

Good cause I would hate to have to put my battle armor on ;-) (its bloomin heavy).

It would all be a lot easier if we could go back to the roots of the NI, but nobody seems to know where they originate and if they do they are not telling :? I would hope that the person who did start the NI breeding program could answer our health/temperament questions and hopefully also why the breed was started, at least then we would have answers even if we didn't like what we were hearing, if that makes sense

Nicely put :smt001

I can't understand why every one has got so heated up?
A NI is a dog, and surely like every breed, x breed etc out there with the right up bringing behind them can make wonderful pets.
I would tell anyone to consider the health, nature of the dogs that make up the breed your considering, because you could have to deal with certain traits of a breed in your dog.
Each one of us on this board choose our breed for our own reason, if it is looks, coat type, size etc what difference does it really make? It would be a sad place if we all had the same breed!
As long as every owner loves the dog/s they have that is all that counts.

So far as we can ascertain no one set out to create the Northern Inuit, TIDA is picking up the pieces and trying to make this fantastic dog a healthy breed with a future. TIDA breeders were not there in the beginning but since being introduced to the breed we are enthusiastic about ensuring its future. As for temperament, as in all breeds you can't generalise. A few dogs may be ok with cats, but on the whole they have a high prey drive and shouldn't be trusted around small Pets. Most are biddable, good with children and make excellent family pets but there are exceptions that are very headstrong and difficult and need experienced handling and consistent, confident training.

I think this thread clearly shows were the hostility comes from, I have not bad mouthed any NIS members or their dogs, I have been honest and open about the health of the breed and of TIDA’s plans for the future. I have been friendly and polite, how did the NIS respond….? With hostility.

I think it is really unfair that people are being allowed to bad mouth the head of TIDA when she is not allowed on here therefore unable to defend herself. When I first joined this forum, JK was banned from it and then it was decided that she should be allowed back on to defend herself. Considering the amount of bad mouthing that the head of TIDA is getting I think it would only be fair to give her the same opportunity.

Hi Dawn. No nothing was directed at you. I cannot speak for others but I never refer to my dogs as wolf lookalikes. When people ask about them I tell them what I know about their history and do not ever mention the word wolf. I do not think they look like wolves, although obviously people do often ask as I am sure owners of huskies mals etc get as well.

Personally I do not know the origins of the breed. Possibly nobody knows the full history. What concerns me is that things are done properly now.