Questions (What are Northern Inuits like as pets) Questions

Malady, why would I join a Mal or Sibe forum when I read enough on the websites I visited to make a decision? You will also read that I believe that the Malamute and Huskie would require more excercise than I would be able to offer. I actually quite like the look of Mals and Huskies and have nothing at all against the breeds but they simply were not the right breed for us according to what I have read. Ref the offlead thing how many debates have there been about this? Also why would I risk my cats after having read repeatedly that these breeds have been known to kill cats they have lived with for years and gotton along with fine until one day.... I couldn't take the risk and have no regrets ref our chosen breed.

"many breeds" does not constitute them all.

It seems that so many of you have a real chip on your shoulder, it's almost as if you think by getting a NID and not a Mal or a Sibe we have somehow snubbed your breed. I see quite a lot of Mals and Sibes and they are lovely dogs I have no dislike of the breeds at all. However surely I have the right to get whatever breed of dog that I want and that I feel is suitable for my circumstances. I don't then expect to have to justify the existence of my dogs!
I look at my two healthy, well trained dogs lying under my desk as I type and think perhaps they would do better at running the so called breed clubs and societies than those who seem to just use them as a forum to bitch about each other.

I guess because they have many good points to offer, I was not talking about the dogs as a whole I was talking about the traits that put me off.

I have said it before, I will say it again. The NI could have an affect on other breeds if the breeding program is not gone about in the correct way, if you read back through you can see clearly our concerns.

I would rather people didn't have my breed if they cannot take the responsibilities that go with it and I don't see how the NI can get away with not having the qualities of the sibe/mal, the traits that obviously bother NI owners.

I have nothing to do with the NI clubs, personally don't see how anyone can choose which one to tag along with when all the arguing is going on with in. Which also leads me to wonder how anyone can go to a reputable NI breeder when the clubs concerned have nothing nice to say about the others. Who do you believe?

Start another thread...

So you took all your information from the many Mal or Sibe websites you visited ? Could you please direct me to the many that said that Mals or Sibes have killed Cats that they have lived with ? I would be very interested to see them, as I'm sure would the majority of Mal owners on here who also own Cats and have done for years !

You say you wouldn't risk your cats !! How strange that you buy a NI then, that not only has Mal blood, but also Sibe blood too ! and as the traits have not been bred out, how on earth could you be sure that your NI wouldn't eat your cat ?

The traits, that are not guaranteed to be bred out ?

MY point is, you looked at a few sites and made your judgement, but then joined the NI forum to enquire about them. Why not join forums for all three, afterall, you could have (as a few have on here already realised) you could end up with a NI that has ALL of the bad breed traits from Mals and Sibes !

Surely with such a new breed where nothing is set in stone, anyone looking into buying a NI SHOULD responsibly look into Mals, Sibes and GSDs to evaluate ALL of their breed traits and would have to accept that they could end up with all of them !

To suggest they are nothing like their originating breeds is ludicrous and niave IMO !

Can I ask your opinion on something? Given these dogs are now not supposed to have been designed to look like Wolves (can find that in one of the other NI threads) and that they are supposed to have no Wolf content, and all of the owners I have seen speak of why they had one, say it had nothing to do with that point, why then in a quick search did I find:

Luns Wolf
Arctic Wolf
Werewolf
Wolfie
Bladewolf
Redwolf
Tawneywolf
Timberwolf
Whitewolf
Wolfgirl
Wolfxsilverx

ALL owning NI's or Utes? Whats with the "Wolf" bit?

No offense intended to you by the following ;-) :

I cannot understand why the club would tell you they do not need the excessive amounts of exercise that the sibes and mals do :? From my understanding the average exercise for the founding breeds is a good two hours minimum, obviously there are deviants from this all be it very rare in the case of the sibe, the mal probably needs less exercise than the GSD in a lot of cases as they are much bigger dogs.

I cannot understand and hopefully someone will be able to explain why NIs are being sold as being good with smaller pets and reliable off lead? There is not enough evidence to suggest this to be true in any case, many years of documentation says otherwise about the founding breeds. It cannot be generalized on a few good NIs that the traits do not exist and there isn't enough history to suggest that the traits have been removed completely.

I am sure you are all going to say that your experiences have shown the traits to have been removed, but that said sibes have lived for years with a cat then killed it out of the blue and have been reliable off lead until something more interesting came along and they've been hit by a car. Many generations of research has made this the case with sibes, many may not kill another pet or fail at recall but it's a risk I wouldn't take with mine because I would only have myself to blame if any of the above occurred and I know the risks. I am wondering if any new NI owner is bought to understand these risks when getting a NI, I have not seen one advert thats mentioned these risks.

Good post.

Had noticed it myself.

And there are post on peoples websites popping up regularly like this one:
Later I saw a very tough looking white dog. I asked the owners if it was a husky? To my surprise they said it was Northern Inuit - a cross between a husky and a wolf! It soon disappeared from view and I kept a wary eye out for it.
Makes you wonder what some of the more dodgy breeders are telling folk.

Don't you think you are being just a bit childish now?? Does it really matter what people call their dogs?

No I dont. This breeds history is surrounded in controversy, lies and hearsay. When founder breeders were asked about Wolf content, they said there was none, there is NO mention of Wolf in the breed standard and when asked again, the founder breeders catagorically stated the NI was NOT designed to look like a Wolf. Why then is it such a big deal that everything is "wolfy" about them, including owners usernames, (my own being Borderdawn, cos I have 3) etc.. It does seem this Wolfy business is paramount to a lot of people, i.e "who has the wolfiest looking NI" threads etc... I wondered why it meant so much when the founder breeders dismissed it? Whats childish about that :smt017 If people are developing a breed, breeding for one trait alone (say wolfy looks) it can be of serious detriment to the breed as a whole.

Answer me this, having looked over this thread and several others concerning NIs in order to find out which qualities (other than appearance) NI owners were looking for in a dog, I have found that the temperaments described come close, if not perfectly match, those of already existing KC recognized breeds. So if not for appearance, as some are saying, why not chose the already existing kc registered breeds??

well I thought that they were bred to resemble a wolf in looks

I can choose to have wolf in my username, it's a free country

or perhaps you would prefer me to change it to Xbreed.designerdog

oh yes, there is this one too

WolfsHeadUK

and you forgot this one

wolfsbane

But they dont own Utes or Ni's do they??? You need to read all the post before you comment! Did somebody say Childish???

no they don't do they

Thats why I didnt include them isnt it!!!!!