Do you think you should pay the same for a mixed breed dog as a pedigree? Discussions

i think too much is put apon papers- for example suki is fantastic with anyone and anything she meets. i would have liked to breed from her but without papers the cost of the pups would not cover the vet bills i would not be doing it to make money to to cover my costs,you should pay for a healthy animal with parents who have a good temprement, health etc not for a piece of paper
ATD xxx

Itotally agree , sorry should have said that breeding without papers will not cover costs of vet bills and health testing xxdk

The 'piece of paper' is hopefully an accurate record of your puppies ancestry. I know you can't guarantee everything 100% but it is up to the reputable breeders to make the fact that a dog is KC registered as worth having by insisting that all breeding stock is health tested.
Becky

i agree becky it gives a very good indication , and at least that way you can do research on the health of the grandparents parents etc ,which you will only get from buying from a reputable breeder . xxdk

i edited my post in reply to ATD as i did not have specs on again ,must tie them to my head in future lol xxdk

It scares me, that some people are charging so much for crosses.
I saw an ad in the paper the other day for labradoodle puppies for £900.00 however when you read the details the parents were apparently a lab & a retriever

Our boy is a total Heinz 57, however his litter was a total accident & we paid very little for him.

funny enough i was talking about this the other day.When i bought my lurcher pup,which i got for £80.My Bruno is a rescue dog and i paid £90 for him,he is an irish staff.Tyson my boxer x staff cost me £50 from a mate.Bruno had his injections done at the dogs home but was not neutered.Tyson had all his injections done.The lad i bought my lurcher from originally wanted £150 for the pups.But reduced them just to get rid quick.I would of went to a dogs home but wanted a pup because of my grandson.The prices of dogs these days are terrible.Who's to say the pedigree papers are true papers.Reason i am saying this is.I knew a breeder, who bred staffs.His bitch was lovely,nice papers,his dog was ugly,sorry not a good looking staff,but had papers.He bred his brothers male staff which had no papers with his bitch and passed his dog off as the father.It put me off totally from buying pedigree dogs with papers.People who want none shedding dogs should buy none shedding pups not mixes totally against it.as usually its a money gimmick but idiots will buy these dogs.

No.

Why should anyone pay the same or more, for a dog which is not health tested, non registered, has a dubious history/background, had no time/effort put into researching their ancestry, no ongoing advice about 'the breed', no support system in place, no guarantees on anything, when they could pay the same or more for a dog that comes with all the above.

I really don't understand people's logic ???

I spend at least £200 a per dog on health test and then pay £500 a stud fee. I find it ludicris that someone can charge more for a cross breed designer puppy that I do with no health checks. I;'d never buy one of these sp called *breeds*.

we have 4 cross breeds and a northern inuit, the northern inuit has papers but nothing that can be checked, my brother paid £650. for it.
we then found out that its not a pedigree dog but one that was bred from a variety of dogs to make up the breed .
so why are they so expensive. we have a bitser ( a bit of this a bit of that ) he cost us nothing , a cross gsd lab 2 pedigree dogs he cost £40.00 , a cross yorkie westie cost us £45.00 2 pedigree dogs , and a collie cross lab cost us nothing.
as i said the northern inuit cost £650 to buy the pedigree isnt worth the paper its writen on , bred from a number of breeds and cost us a fortune in vet bills he as so many health problems its unreal
dont be fooled by these designer dogs they are not what they seem

best wishes cochillo

p.s. so in reality we have five crossbreeds

Hi Cochillo, did you introduce yourself or just come on here to have a dig, or even more suspect, are you one of you know whos' lot
BTW, would be interested to know who bred your brothers N.I and its health issues

If you contact the NI society and give them the names on the papers and the breeders names they may be able to help at least with regards to accuracy, the same as any Breed council or KC should be able to help with lineage queries on registered recognised pedigrees.

HTH

has anybody got a chewwy toffee,gobstopper or a toffee apple please

Someone stop her quick, giver her a fag before she opens her mouth lol

Passing you a HUGE one now
Get chewing

I have an old toffee apple Ju. I was left over from Bonfire night, but you're welcome to it :smt042

Sorry sutty didn't know I was supposed to introduce myself. I dont know what you mean by you know whos lot or what BTW means. I take it you mean northern inuit by NI. He was bred by a lady in scotland his health issues are bad hips , he has had one replaced. He has a heart defect and suffers from fits. My brother bought him but due to the big vet bills couldn't afford to keep him, we took him on but didn't realise how much it was going to cost us. But we love him and have managed to find the money. hope this answers your questions. this wasn't meant as a dig at anyone. sorry if you took it that way but i was just answering a question about crossbreeds. From what little i know about dogs and from what i have been told by breeders and the KC the northern inuit is not a reconised breed and is breed from a number of other breeds so therefore it must be a crossbreed.

best wishes cochillo

Hi there,

The purpose of this thread, was regarding people who just cross breed designer dogs for the Novelty factor, for money, which are usually breeders who breed inappropriate dogs together or dogs for the bizarre names. They have no intention of ever making these crosses into breeds and breed solely for the 'money of the moment' !

THe Northern Inuit has been a long running process of some 20 years or so, and they have their own Society and rescue, so cater for their own dogs, unlike the novelty breeders of 'doodles and Yorkiwowas' !!! They hope to one day be recognised and are working toward this, again unlike the oodle breeders who just breed for money.

The breeder of your NI, may have been unethical, we don't know the full story, but the breed as a whole is a "breed" of it's own, again unlike the MOney grabbers.

This is why sutty took offence at your post. THe NI's are not in the same league as the novelty breeders being discussed here ;-)

thankyou and for the left over toffee apple

Thankyou Malady, couldnt have put it better meself