Pets at home have an free advertisement board were customers can sell or request pets/items, saw this A4 size of paper advertising the following : "LATEST MUST HAVE DOG" I have a rare litter of 10 pedigree miniature Labradors puppies, parents are 10 & 12 inches high, have bred both parents myself & both parents will be seen with the puppies, males £1, 000 & females £1, 500, these puppies will make ideal family dog for those with limited garden space. TELEPHONE ......... to arange viewing £500 non refundable deposit will secure the puppy of your choice. I felt sick reading that advert & I really needed to do something about getting it removed, so I went to the Pets4vets inside pets at home & asked to see the head vet, after telling the head vet about the advert, she contacted the Pets at Home shop manager who took the A4 sheet advertising the puppies down & promise to check advertisement board every day & remove any advertising rare pets. Labradors I think are normally 21-25 inches high or around that height, seeing them advertised as rare miniature pedigree Labrador puppies that will only be around 10 -12 inches is totally ridicules, the only way I can see them being full pedigree pups, is for the greatgreatgreatgrandparents the greatgreat grandparents, the greatgrandparents & parents all being the runts of the litters, which means they will have health problems & morely likely genetic defects. Why can't BYB's & PuppyFarmers leave our pedigree breeds alone, if people want a small dog then they will buy/adopt a toy/small breed of dog, why ruin a medium/large breed like the Labrador just to make a small breed of Labrador, it just don't make any sense to me at all
I had no idea there was such a thing as a miniature Labrador. Like you Tina, it makes no sense to me at all. There are many small breeds to choose from so why would anyone need to miniaturize a large one? And surely 10 -12 inches can't be right - that seems impossibly small for a Labrador. I'm shocked!
@Janet - where money is concerned, whether it is £££s or $$$s or €€€s or ¥¥¥s or whatever currency, there will always be someone who wants to cash in on the latest craze. And as miniature/small dogs are currently "fashionable" no thanks to various so-called "celebrities", that someone will appear out of the woodwork with their own new fashionable "breed.
There was a photo of "mum" with these puppies she looked like a Labrador just very small at first I thought she was a pup for sale until I re-read & looked closely at photo & saw the big teets under her & a puppy hanging off a teet, that's what got me mad because my Evil one (Dottie) being the runt of my litter & the smallest of all my JRT's is taller then the mother Labrador & Dottie being the runt of my litter she as a heart defect, I feel every so sorry for anyone buying one of the miniature puppies as they are going to have a very sick pup on their hands
On the American Labrador Club website there is a statement questioning the ethics of breeders purporting to breed miniature labradors. I'd be very sceptical about buying one if only because there's no guarantee that they won't grow up to be full sized.
Its not just BYB and P Farmers, that breed miniatures’ of any breed, I’m by no means condoning it but we already have various miniature breeds bred from standard sizes ie: , Alaskan Klee Kai ,Miniature Schnauzer , poodles ect: all bred to be miniatures’ from the standard sizes. Sadly there will always be people who choose to breed something different just to claim its ‘rare’ and make more money . The miniature lab as far as I know is not a recognised breed, but no doubt will be one day,. Quote The Miniature Labrador Retriever carries all those same characteristics, but only grows to be about 18 inches tall. If they grow taller than 19 inches they can no longer be classified as miniatures at dog shows, so breeders usually take special care to make sure they stay as small as possible. http://www.dog-first-aid-101.com/miniature-labrador-retriever.html http://www.miniaturelabs.net/
Following your second link Vee, I found this as to "How are they made?" In other words, they are mixed breed mutts.
I think you'll find most purebred dogs originated from several breeds, The GSD was actually created by the crossbreeding of herding sheep dogs from rural Germany and only through generations of selective breeding did they become purebred
I am not doubting you for a minute Vee, but that took generations. I think many now pure breeds are like that, with cross breeding way back in their backgrounds to "create" [if that is the correct word] the now pure breeds? Most, if not all, purebred dogs have a mix in their origin to form them as they were wanted/needed and as they are today. What I am wondering is how many generations did it take to create these "miniature" Labradors? Only I have never heard of them until the start of this thread. But it reminds me of not so long ago there was a known but unspoken fact of a very few Griffon breeders occasionally using Pugs as stud dogs when I was breeding Griffons - to "enhance their show quality according to the standard". And then registering the puppies with the Kennel club with one of their own Griffons as the stud. And when one little girl from the last litter I bred was more blonde than red, eyebrows were raised in certain circles. But as both I and my mentor [who was a Crufts judge] saw her 100% Griffon stud dog mating with my girl, also 100% Griffon, neither of us were bothered about the raised eyebrows. Zabrina was sold as a pet, not as a show dog, so what did it matter if she was too blonde for the show ring?
Min labs must have been in existence a long time as the are registered with the American Kennel Club (AKC); http://www.labrador-retriever-guide.com/miniaturelabrador.html http://chipslabs.com/ Without looking up the breeds, there are plenty out there that would meet the criteria of being true breeds that aren't recognized by major kennel clubs because they don't want recognition, or there aren't enough representations in the country (or no national breed club) to be eligible for recognition. Though some are not recognised by the KC that does not make them non pedigree. Sure there are plenty of designer 'breeds' and other breeds under development that have no true or organized effort to make them actual breeds, but that's not always the case either, I'm not speaking of the breed you mention specifically, only that sometimes there's a reason certain breeds aren't recognized
@GsdSlave - I honestly do not know about these miniature Labradors as this thread was the first I had heard of them. And I am not sure which breed I mentioned that you mean Vee - but if you mean Griffons I am talking about Griffon Bruxellois http://www.breedia.com/dog-breeds/griffon-bruxellois and no way are they designer breeds but are definitely recognised by the UK Kennel Club and all other KCs. However I do acknowledge that they too were originally "formed" to what was wanted and was then accepted as a pure breed. But that was centuries ago. If I have misunderstood your post I apologise, so please forgive me. I miss my Griffons - they all still have a special place in my heart.
Found some photos of the miniature Labradors They look horrible with short stumpy legs Normal size & miniature lab both same age Look very puppy like even at 5 years old
I agree with you Malka I am not a big fan of Labradors but if I was going to have one then it would be a full size one & not a miniature one.
It is pretty (aren't all furbabies?), but it looks like a Terrier cross to me - there are plenty that look like that in the Dog's Homes.
