This year's status dog General Chat

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    This year's status dog

    This year's status dog is the Husky, gangs & drug dealers are no longer owning Stofties (Staffies) but Huskies.

    I arrived at work to find 18 more Huskies have been brought in after police raids, 14 from different gang members & 4 from drug dealers.

    We now have 54 huskies in our kennels, all have been brought in by police since January after being taken from gangs members & drug dealers, unfortunately 6 of these's dogs will never ever be rehomed, due to their "un-responsible" owners turning them into white dogs (dogs that have been specially trained to attack non white people) they will now spend the rest of their lives with us, they will be living in the lifers block, an OTT luxury kennels they have sofa's or Chair's to sleep on (depending on size of dog) their own TV, Radio running water fountains more toys then any dog could wish for, have their own volunteers with them for 8 solid hours & their very own kennel staff.

    In 2000 the "in status" dog was the staffy & Bullmastiff in the 90's it was the Rottweiler & in the 80's the GSD, in 2012 we were getting lots of Staffy X Lurchers, Staffy X Whippets & Staffy X Greyhounds these breeds were being bred for speed & strength (mainly for illegal hare hunting) we had near on 30 in just 2 months.

    I wonder what the next "in status" breed of dog will be, might be Terrier or even scent hound such as the Beagle, but what ever breed it be, privately run rescue homes like mine will be over run with them.
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    I've never heard the term 'white dog' before - things crazy people do!!

    The funny thing is, 20 small Yorkies could inflict more damage than one big dog - I reckon that will be the next status dog/s :lol:
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    About 25 years ago there was a film about an white South African farmer training his dog to become an "white dog" some what far fetch in parts, but basically the same as the "white dogs" we have in our kennels.
    In the film the dog escaped & went on a killing spree, the farmer didn't try to find his dog, film ended with the "white dog" killing the farmer.

    We won't try to retrain any of our "white dogs" as we could over train them & turn them the other way, or not train enough & they end up killing a non white person,
    They have a happy life with us & get plenty of love & tummy rubs.
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    I've never heard the term before either - appalling!

    What a shame about all those Huskies needing homes. There are quite a few Huskies round here - all well cared for fortunately, and quite at ease with my Tanzanian friend!
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    I know over the last few years huskies have become very popular and more and more ending in rescue but im surprised that thugs use them as normally they are not known to be aggressive or make good guard dogs .

    Why would the police hand over to a rescue’ dogs that are deemed to be ‘dangerous’?

    Gosh it must be a big kennels if it has 54 huskies which will not be easy to find ‘suitable’ homes for plus all the other dogs.

    White dogs) ive read about them being trained as such in other countries but not here, It must be some rescue if it can spare to give them their own volunteers for 8 solid hours & their very own kennel staff, as for spending the rest of their life in Rescue kennels afraid im not in agreement with that .
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    We got 20 kennel blocks each as 30 kennels in (15 down each side)
    The police just bring the dogs don't check whether vicious, only dogs they don't bring are "the type" they put them down.
    There's 30 volunteers walkers 20 volunteers kennel staff, we have the OAP staff these come sit with the nervous or elderly dogs & then there's the employed kennel staff & the kennel managers the owner of rescue home plus his family & then there's 5 volunteers trainers & the 5 employed trainers.

    We are always on look out for more volunteers
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    I have to agree with GsdSlave to be honest, I would even go as far as to say I think it's cruel to keep dogs caged up for the rest of their lives if they have no chance of ever being placed in homes, not to mention taking up 6 kennels that can never be used for dogs that could be re homed.

    I'm also interested to know how you know these dogs are " white dogs" :confused2:

    I would assume you had to test them with different ethnic groups, and why would drug dealers train a dog to attack people of different races, surely dealers and buyers come
    from all ethnic walks of life,
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    Drug dealers train them for protection, as for how we know they are white dogs, we have to assess each dog before putting that dog into either family dog, no children, children 12 plus, children 8 plus, no cats, can live with cats, nervous quiet home, elderly & puppy blocks.

    As for keeping the lifers in kennels is no problem they got everything they want plus the kennels don't look like kennels they are made to look like family living rooms,, we have a beautiful Mastiff in the lifers block not because he's dangerous, but because he loves being in kennels, he is only 3 years old but already had 12 owners each time he goes to new owners he escapes & use to make his way back to the rescue he had come from, we saw him on death row list & the owner of my rescue home phoned up & we were told everything about him & the owner of my rescue home told the other rescue home, that we were a non kill home that is how we have ended up with George.

    As for killing healthy dogs is not on regardless on who they are, they did not ask to be born nor asked to be trained to attack, they are a living loving dog who just need somewhere warm to sleep, be fed every day & have someone to give them a tummy rub every day.

    I can't understand other dog owners when they say lifers should be killed, would they like it if their own dog was killed by a rescue home just because they decided to give his/her kennel to another dog that as better chance of being adopted. I am proud to work in a NON KILL rescue home. we made sure all our dogs have plenty of walkies including the white dogs they are walked in a enclosed area first thing in morning when we closed at dinner & at night.

    We have already rehomed some of the Huskies (not the white one) they are going to join some husky racing teams in Scotland they will be going to their new home next weekend, these husky racing teams have already took some previous huskies from us, they are only too keen to have new huskies.
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    No matter how luxurious the kennel is at the end of the day its still a kennel where they are ‘caged for majority of the day for rest of their lives to me that’s not a happy ending for any dog and disagree with keeping dogs alive in rescues just for the sake of it, they might be physically fit but what about their mentality. PTS any dog is never an easy option, but sometimes is the only humane one.
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    Wow your rescue is huge. Im also thinking derby isnt as nice as i thought on the many times ive been there. To have this many gang dogs there must be a real gang problem in derby. As for the new status dog gsd's and belgians are rising in that department or they are in bolton/manchester. My brother has had loads of calls about them asking if he can help find them working homes.
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    I saw that film so knew what you meant instantly. But I've honestly never heard of a dog being trained in real life in this manner....and you have 6 at once?? :eek:

    I think it's admirable that your rescue sets out to not put a healthy dog down ( something I generally agree with ), but I agree with what Vee said, that I find it strange the police would hand over such dangerous dogs. I would also question to some degree to what kind of life they will lead if they're not to receive further training/rehabilitation.
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    The rescue must cover a massive area Tina if there is room for twenty kennel blocks each with thirty kennels. Are all 600 kennels usually occupied? It must mean an awful lot of work for the workers, plus cost an absolute fortune to run.
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    I thought that too. More dogs than Battersea. Must be huge.
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    We have dogs in from the whole UK the 6 white dogs are from Birmingham London, Manchester, 3 are from same owner in Liverpool.
    We are an holding kennels for the police, dog wardens & sometimes for the R.S.P.C.A until the courts hand over the dogs to them, then they can put them up for adoption, however if the courts don't hand them over the dogs, then we have to return them to the police, dog wardens or R.S.P.C.A who in turn have to return the dogs back to their owners.
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    I do not quite understand what these kennels actually are. Are they a rescue centre, a rehoming centre, or a holding centre?

    Because now you say that if the courts hand over the dogs to the police/dog wardens/RSPCA who then return the dogs back to their owners, so why do the kennels have a "lifers block"?
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    We are a rescue home but some dogs that come in can't be rehome we try to foster some of the lifers out (non dangerous ones) but they don't seem to be able to settle in a home environment, so we keep them in the lifers block which is attached to the main building they seem more settled when they are back in the kennels, the non dangerous ones are kept separate from the dangerous ones & they have freedom throughout the day their kennel doors are left open they can wander in/out of their kennels they can go say hello to the reception staff (not likely its scary out there says George) they can go sit outside in the sunshine, they can't escape as there is fencing all around, they just enjoying life more then they would if forced to stay at the fosters.

    We hold dogs that the police, dog wardens R.S.P.C.A have taken away from their owners for various reasons, they stay with us why the owners are being taken to court, if the courts say the dogs must be handed over then we can adopt them out, but if the courts think the dogs are not in any danger then they must be handed back to their owners.
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    But didn't you say you have already re home one of these huskies,, how could you do that when these cases have to go to court.:confused2:
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    Because we already had huskies in & the courts already handed them over to us.
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    Your rescue sounds like a very big and busy place. Didnt realise you took dogs from other areas. I still dont fully agree with "lifers" and keeping dangerous dogs but im not the one that has to make the decision i suppose. I know they say you should never put a healthy dog down but surely mental health should be taken in to account. Just because a dog isnt ill doesnt make it healthy

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