Stubborn potty training? Training

We have a 6 month old mal, and she knows how to tell us she needs to go out, and will wake us up when she needs to go out, yet she still just randomly pees in the house. The door to the yard can be open, and she will still just randomly pee inside. She gets a lot of love and praise when she goes outside, I know she understands the concept... We did not have this much trouble with our GSD mix, and we trained her while living in an apartment. :/ So glad we invested in a good carpet shampooer... This is our little trouble maker

With such an innocent face can't possibly be a trouble maker
Shes's gorgeous

I've found that you can't beat standing outside with them, every time they wake, or eat, or drink, = rain or shine - no matter how long it takes!

Oh its just random spots and we can't even tell when she's going to to get her outside, she doesn't sniff for a spot she just squats randomly. lol. Doesn't even matter if its carpet or linoleum, all is fair game.

A lot of times in the morning or after eating I have to be out there, give her a little push towards the stairs to get her to go. She does great on the 'typical' times they have to go, but I feel like its just completely random. Even if we were all just outside and she went outside. She goes outside a majority of the time, its usually once a day inside, never at the same time of day either.

The cute ones are always trouble ;P We definitely try to keep the carpets clean. Spot clean when she does something, and I'll shampoo completely every other week usually, sometimes more depending on the circumstances.

I've found with the Pugs that it took much longer than is normal for your average dog. Over a year for one of them and one is still a work in progress at 11 months. I find taking them out pretty much every hour on the hour and watching them like a hawk while they're out there pays off eventually. My Pugs seem to get side tracked very easily by the others and leaves. twigs the wind whatever, so just thinking they've been out ages so they must have been simply doesn't work. What seems to have got them all motivated to go rather than fanny about is since their last season they are obsessed with peeing over each others wee. One goes very quickly and now the others are following suit. We haven't had any inside for a while now but I still wouldn't say we've cracked it, more a case of little opportunity tbh.

I reward the wees and poos, clicker style, and my two will now oblige on command. Ed is funny as he will shout, 'I've done a wee', if he's out on his own, so I can bring his little treat out.

I want to try the clicker, just not sure how it will go, the thing drove my gsd nuts when we tried clicker training her when she was younger. lol. She DOES like to go where the GSD goes, so that helps sometimes. puppy just goes far more often than her... yay puppy bladders! :/ We do usually go out there, we might wander in and out while they are out there but we keep an eye on them so we can reward for going. I almost feel like, with it being so random, it may be some sort of territory thing against my gsd... My gsd is definitely like that outside, so maybe she chose to claim inside.

Clicker boxes can hype some dogs. I use the word 'YES!' as a click, then treat and 'Good dog'.

[QUOTE="ahobson, We definitely try to keep the carpets clean. Spot clean when she does something, and I'll shampoo completely every other week usually, sometimes more depending on the circumstances.[/QUOTE]
It is important that you completely remove every trace of the smell, I used a biological washing powder then rinsed with some Bicarb of soda ....

The thing I am picking up in your post is you say you leave the door open for her to go, it may be she is not really understanding the concept of what you expect from her.

It's a mistake to just leave doors open and assume because the dog is peeing outside they are housetrained, it's probably more accident than design.

It may be a good idea to go right back to basics , start a new routine, don't leave the door open go outside with her every half hour and give the potty command, stay there till she goes, then praise.

This may sound strange but is she coming into season, has I have had adult female dogs in the pass that were 2-4 years old weeing in house, just before they came into season.

I guess I should clarify... the door isn't constantly open, it gets too warm in here and she enjoys being outside, so the door is open when it's warm, so its not open for her to go potty, its open so she can be out there as she prefers outside to in & our dogs enjoy playing together outside. She does understand, like I said, she will even wake me up in the middle of the night, persistently until I take her out, she will go immediately, then come back in to go to sleep, and she will usually notify us during the day if she needs to go. It is not all the time that she is going inside.

I sure hope she isn't coming into season.. lol. They wanted to wait until 7 months to spay her, so they could get any puppy teeth that may not have come out, I was hoping to not have her go into heat before that

I know she's still young, so potty training could take some time, we got lucky with our mix, she took to it quickly and also learned the puppy pads. Ashes just tears them apart... haha.Was only asking because she is extremely smart and gets it most of the time, its just so random, with no consistency.

I have ordered more pet carpet stuff, and will look into the ones you mentioned gsdslave, and cross my fingers that we just can't smell it but thats the reason. lol. Didn't really even think about the fact that their sense of smell is waaay better than ours.

I use THIS as both a carpet deodoriser and stain remover, plus also as an air deodoriser. Not that Pereg has accidents now but she loses bladder [and sometimes also bowel] control when she has a seizure. She has also, on occasion, emptied her anal glands and oh does that stink, but this removes all odour and staining that may result. It is unperfumed but works brilliantly.

The first little concentrated bottle has lasted me over a year and I have just ordered a double refill pack.

A bit of an aside but 7 months is really young to get a large breed spayed, you may well be storing up problems for the future. Large breed dogs are far more likely to develop spay incontinence when spayed early. I have first hand experience unfortunately, it is treatable with drugs but waiting reduces the risks. It may not be apparent immediately either, Rio developed it at around 7 years old. Also osteosarcoma bone cancer is also now associated with neutering before the dog is fully mature ( more prevalent in certain breeds) pretty much untreatable and becoming quite common as is cancer generally.

oooh thank you malka! I think I will be ordering that today.

Trouble - our vet is the one that said to come back at 7 months when my husband asked when she should be back for it, BUT he isn't always reliable on relaying correct info and it could have been he thought it was to be spayed but really just to check up on her in general and her teeth because she was having a few issues before. LOL. But I will look into it more and talk with her before making the final appointment. (Hadn't made the actual appointment anyways because we wanted to read more and decide definitively that we wanted to as soon she could safely be to avoid any oops anything as there are a lot of large, outdoor, male dogs in our neighborhood) Thanks My husband has had large breed dogs but only male dogs in general up until our mix, and she isn't a big dog, and the females I've had have always been medium sized but were spayed from the rescues as puppies as most here will not adopt puppies out until they are spayed or neutered to prevent backyard breeding and overpopulation.

Alisha, if you use the promo code COH622 you will get up to $10 on your first order!

Vets do generally advise spay asap as their prime concern is no unwanted puppies, but having experienced spay incontinence with my female Dobermann and losing my male Dobermann to bone cancer at 8 and my female last month to cancer at 8 I think you need to do your own research. I certainly wish someone had warned me but the connection hadn't really been made when they were neutered. I had 3 bitches in season together about a month ago with an entire male in the house, you certainly need your wits about you and the space to separate them but it was nowhere near as difficult as some would lead you to believe in my opinion.

I would really wait for spaying till your dog is older. Around 18 months seams to be the general age for large breeds as they are not fully grown till then. They kind of fill out same as we do as teenagers. it can also cause a whole heap of other problems spaying to early.
As for the potty training i made a spot for phoebe to pee as a puppy. Every time she pee'd on the spot she got a treat and a load of fuss. She really took to it and would do some of the smallest wee's just to get the treat. She would even hold it on walks till be got home so she could use the spot. I did it by moving the puppy pad from inside to the spot and weighing it down with some rocks on corners and then after a few weeks i stopped putting the pad down.

our mix still does great with puppy pads, I just havent been able to have them down anywhere at all because it becomes confetti. LOL.(sucks, our mix loved them, and when we had cats, they even liked using them.. it was strange...)
We've changed up our routine in general, not even as something to try to help it, but I've noticed her going less inside. She finally conquered her fear of the stairs that go up to our master bed/bath, (YAY. we had been staying downstairs so we could still get sleep lol. As she would either cry and bark at the bottom of the stairs because we were up there, or she would do it at the top because she wanted down. /sigh.) but it seems like she isn't wanting to go potty up there, at least not currently. so i'm definitely thinking it could be that she can smell things we cant and so she thinks its okay downstairs. (thank you for the code too; that's awesome!)

I am already looking into the spaying thing, am getting just as many "studies" and "vet articles" for as I am against. But I'm reading up a lot on it and I'm talking to others with lots of large breed dog experience and will be going into details with my vet to see what her train of thought was. From what I've gathered, spaying early helps prevent one cancer, spaying later helps prevent another, and there are pros and cons to each. But, like I said, still lots more to read up on.