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  1. Murf

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    #1 Dec 12, 2011

    White boxers:A side effect of breeding certain colours of boxers.

    Are white boxers looked at in the breeding world as a side effect of breeding certain colours of boxer.

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  2. K'Ehleyr

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    #2 Dec 12, 2011
    Doesnt answer your question Murf but do you know why white isnt an acceptable colour? Is it because it is linked with deffness.

    I love boxers :049:
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    #3 Dec 12, 2011
    I was told the colour started being phased out when used as army dogs by the German army in WW1..White kinda stands out ..lol
    Not sure if this is the true facts ,,
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    #4 Dec 12, 2011
    If you breed for flashy boxers for the show ring then yes you will have some whites pop up in litters. So they probably could be seen as a side effect :(
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    #5 Dec 12, 2011
    Thats what i was getting at Carole ,they want the flashy pups but will get 25% of time whites..
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    #6 Dec 12, 2011
    Although technically they are not white they are just extremely flashy brindle/white or red/white :lol:

    Does an plain x flashy breeding not produce whites? I think I remember reading that somewhere :?
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    #7 Dec 12, 2011
    Plain + Plain = 100% Plain Puppies

    Plain + Flashy = 50% Plain and 50% Flashy Puppies

    Flashy + Flashy = 25% Plain, 50% Flashy and 25% White puppies
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    .......and as flashy are so popular in the show ring, they will continue to use them for breeding.....

    although the Germans, who are after all the governing council for the breed, have been showing Whites for about a year now in breed shows.

    They are going to do a controlled experiment with 23 Boxers breeding White to coloureds over the next number of years to see how it goes.
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    #9 Dec 13, 2011
    Where did you get those stats from?
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    #11 Dec 13, 2011
    I read that to, but does`nt the plain have to have the dd gene :?
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    #12 Dec 13, 2011
    I guess you could technically say yes to that question.:?

    But white is not a colour in Boxers , its a lack of pigment , nether the less they (the whites) are no less a Boxer.:lol:
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    #13 Dec 13, 2011

    Ruby is a flashy red boxer her only litter mate is a white male boxer (only two puppies in the litter).

    Her dam is a plain black masked red without any white at all.
    Her sire is a flashy brindle.

    There wasn't any white in the litter that the dam came from either.
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    #14 Dec 13, 2011
    I wonder if the dam carries the flashy gene then :? I know some plains are not really plain :? Genetics is so interesting but confusing :mrgreen:
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    Her dam is what is known as a solid fawn and not supposed to carry the white gene.

    From my understanding a flashy boxer carries two genes.

    One gene is for solid colour or lower end white markings.
    The other gene is for extreme white.

    It would appear the flashy sire is responsible for the white litter mate.
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    #18 Dec 13, 2011
    I was reading that link last night and found this interesting

    So breeding white x plain means the puppies would be flashy :?
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    #19 Dec 13, 2011
    Have you noticed the date on that article, 1974 ,things haven't changed much ..lol
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    #20 Dec 13, 2011
    I've seen this before and it is a good simple explanation of the genetic's involved in colouration as to why reds can only produce reds but brindles who carry both the brindle and red genes can produce either.

    It's always easier for the amateurs among'st us to understand when there are picture diagrams:mrgreen:
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