Labrador colours, a guess anyone? Discussions

Nope-----they might not health test but then nor do all so called 'good' breeders.

Temperaments on those I know can't be faulted and they are often well socialised with other family dogs and kids etc.

TBH the more I know about some pedigree breeders the less I would ever recommend anyone to buy from them.


rune

You are probably right---I only looked into the dilute cause of Celt being a double recessive.

rune

That's really reassuring NOT - you actually WANT your friends to have a higher risk of owning a dysplastic dog who can go blind, or even had litter mates which don't make it out of the litter because of genetic conditions which could have been prevented - some friend.

People really need to get a grip when it comes to pedigree breeders - a knee jerk reaction to PDE covering a handul of breeds which because of responses like this will help the PF and BYB to flourish to the detriment of the dog world.

every element of buying a puppy is as important as the next - from health testing to rearing to socialisation.

IF puppy buyers bought with their heads rather than with their hearts - there wouldn't be a problem.

i.e. a KC registered pup from health tested parents who has been cared for and well socialised - contrary to your belief - it IS possible to have it all, and even moreso now in Labs as the messages get through.

PF and BYB have been the scourge of the labrador, in particular chocolates - leading to dogs with poor conformation, poor temperaments and poor health (and sometimes all three together) - giving in particular the chocolate labrador a reputation of being tarnished by colour, when in fact the three genes in the breed are inextricably linked.

If you want to see how dogs have suffered - read the Labrador Health website - www.lab-health.co.uk

This is of interest My friend has a black lab pup with white spots under his stop pads! Also a small fleck on his chest! I'll get my friend to look at this Thread!!

The small white fleck on the chest is more common than you realise and perfectly acceptable under the UK KC breed standard.

The spots under his pads are known as Bolo Pads and reputed to go back to Dual CH Banchory Bolo.

I agree if you are buying a crossbreed or mongrel ;-)

Unless its your daughter ofcause

Well thats interesting-----which pedigree dog are you thinking that I 'recommended' Tassle should buy?

Or have you once again read my post wrongly?

Funny but until you came on board this discussion it wasn't personal.....except for Borderdawns comments, but that is a given now in any discussion on any breeds.

rune

Id like to see a black nosed, black eye rimmed, dark eyed yellow then from a mating of yellow and chocolate.

Nope, Id consider her a lovely pet.

As far as her colour goes, IMO she is incorrect yes.

Genetics are not 100% in many cases, I like to see whats in front of me and has been proven in the flesh so to speak. I do enjoy raeding about it though. Any advances in technology of any description can only be a good thing.

Dont be so silly! Id have done the same as I would now, found her a loving pet home.

Not at all, you just see it like that because I disagree with you. Been there many times, try a hunting debate, Im ripped to shreds but its something I believe in, so as much as I respect others opinions, its my choice I value the most, I have to live with that.

Thank you.


So

Again, one persons opinion, as mine is and as yours is.

Yes pointed, I do feel strongly about breeding, doing lab rescue for years, showing them and being involved with the breeding of them, it taught me that only the very best of anything should be bred. I make no excuses for thinking that way at all, sorry if you dont like that.

Oh dear, lynn has the hump again.

the question was in response to a comment you made, nothing more , nothing less,

You posted , : they might not health test but then nor do all so called 'good' breeders., which is a complete "opposite in terms" ALL good breeder health test, if you dont, you ain't a good breeder!

You also stated

TBH the more I know about some pedigree breeders the less I would ever recommend anyone to buy from them.

Which I found a strange statement, considering the future plans.:?

The thread does what it does, someone posts, someone picks up on what they say, it does not have to mean the thread has deteriated to a slanging match.

You could simply have just answered the question , or ignored it , if you dont want it going "personal"!

Its easier to do, than answering a question

Does that help?

rune

Once again you jumped in without reading the post properly.

BTW---the post was a reply to DD---and relevant to her I think.

See post above for help.

rune

Yep!

I did see it BTW

So would those "some" include the good breeders that dont health test :?

Or the bad ones that dont health test ;-)

So if you saw it what was the point of mentioning Tassle??? Surely not just to try and get a cheap shot in?

The word 'some' modifies the comment and means that there are 'some' I would not recommend----which means there are 'some' I would recommend.

Re the health testing---I was replying to DD.

rune

I know! but where does it say only she can answer ?

When someone posts such a comment as ...

Not all good breeders health test, dont be surprised when others ask for clarification:?

Maybe next time you direct a response to one person, make sure you tell others , to keep out!!

NORTY JACKBOX!

I thought I had in my first reply to you---but again you must have missed it.

rune

Jackbox - not aimed as you as I know you are quoting - but I am h*llish confused now how can you have a 'good' breeder that doesn't health test?

All good breeders health test - but because a breeder does health test, doesn't make them good.

Any breeder who doesn't follow the absolute minimum health tests for their breed is not a good breeder.

Some breeds do not have tests to do.