Shar-Pei, any info welcome. General Chat

Discussion in 'Shar Pei' started by x-clo-x, May 12, 2010.

  1. DoKhyi

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    Your wish is my command - head over to the working dog section. :039:
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    He was from a breeder near Hull who bred their bitch using a Peondokry (sp) dog. Through owning Bronx I met a local breeder that gave me lots of support during his initial bouts of SHS. I think she does (or did) do work with Sharpei rescue.
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    I think the East Asian guard breeds can bite more than the German but I may be wrong.
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    I know Angie Rachael (Peandokry). My first shar-pei was the granddaughter or her black dog William (Peandokry Baby Boxcar). He was a popular sire back in the day so I wonder if your Bronx was related to my girls who also had SHS? It's a terrible disease and is so hard to breed away from. My Tinkerbell was 6 years old before she had her first hock attack.
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    Bronx was William's son! I'm having a real blonde moment and can't for the life of me remember the kennel name of his dam, I'll have to look through my old paperwork. Bronx was about 2 when he had his first attack, at about 6 years old they became quite frequent at which point he went onto a daily dose of Rimadyl.
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    Hi Angie. How was that for a good guess - he-he! Stella (Chadson) had a couple of his offspring that reached their teens and from what I remember Tinker's mum and aunt reached over 12. The females were Yacanto and Myojo lines. I'll have to upload some better photos, but this is Tinkerbell. Her other grandad was Am Ch Panache Times A Wastin.

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    William definitely left his mark on the breed. My little fawn horsecoat was indirectly is related as she went back to Jordansville Bloomin Lovely who was Willam's litter sister.

    My two only fevered about 4 times a year each so they managed on just aspirin at the time of the atttack. It seems they may have finally found a test for FSF so they can tell which dogs carry it etc... but we'll see.
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    According to Dr Linda Tintle the FSF test should be ready within the next two years.
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    I just hope it all goes as planned and that breeders actually use it and use it wisely.

    p.s. I see you like your oriental breeds too. :001: I love tibbies and when I downsize from the Tibetan mastiff this is the breed I'd love have next. I was going to look for one in May when I lost my horsecoat, but an old acquaintance phoned me asking if I had room for a young bearcoat. Fate didn't want meto have a tibbie. :lol:
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    DoKhyi .... you don't know what you're missing not having a Tibbie ... are you sure you haven't got room to squeeze one in?

    I never intended having a Pei or a Tibbie ... I wanted a Maltese and a Boxer. When I started looking for two puppies I had to enlist the help of a Hungarian friend who spoke little English and knew nothing about dog breeds.

    She made me an appointment with a Maltese (or so she assured me) breeder some 120 mile away. When I arrived they weren't Maltese pups, but a breed called Palota Pinsci, and when one of them toddled up to me I was completely lost and bought her. It was only several month later I discovered Tibetan Spaniels are known as Palota Pincsi in Hungary.

    A similar thing happened 6 weeks later when we went to look at some (so called) Boxer pups which turned out to be a breed called Shar-Pei. When I got my new bundle of joy home and put her n the living room I was horrified .... she was the UGLIEST little creature I'd ever seen!

    We sat there staring at each other when the phone rang ... my son... and I wailed to him that I'd a baby hippo wearing an oversized fur coat sitting on my carpet and I was thinking of taking her back. After he'd calmed me down he asked what I was going to call her. I told him I'd no idea as I could only think of her as "DOG", which he didn't think was very kind and suggested if that was the only name I could think of I should call her M'boi .... so M'boi she is .... and her name's still DOG ... coz dog in Swahili is M'boi!

    Two years later I'm thankful my friend made a mistake because of all the breeds of dogs I've owned in my life to my mind, my Pei and my Tibbie are by far the best.
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    Ah, she's lovely!!!! You've jogged my memory, I must find Bronx's pedigree papers out, his grand dam was from the Myojo lines. I once saw his grand dam being shown in a veteran class at 10 years old. I think Bronx must have taken after their side in the longevity department as he lived to almost 13 years of age.
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    Tinker's dam Lycra was Myojo Christmas Stocking. I wonder if Bronx's grand dam was her litter sister? I know two of her litter sisters were shown and did well in veteran classes. Lotus (xmas tree) and Naomi (xmas cracker). Their dad was William.
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    I'm afraid two dogs are my limit, though I'd gladly swap Sophie for a stuffed toy right now as she's decided she's got seperation anxiety. I thought we'd beat it once she'd settled in, but she's started barking again while I'm out.

    Well, fate obviously thought it knew best what breeds you should have. Why on earth it's sent me Sophie who's too fond of her own voice I don't know. Oh well, back to leaving the house about 20 times a day and coming back again straight away until she gets bored of it. In fact, I'm just about to leave through the back door and come through the front, then ignore her mental greeting dance. :lol:

    I love shar-pei puppies when they are about 4 weeks old and look like little mini adults. Then they get ugly for a bit - well, the horsecoats do anyway. The brushcoats are not quite as ugly and the bearcoats are the cutest puppies on the planet all the way through.

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    You have my sympathy as I've been through the whole separation anxiety saga with M'boi. She doesn't bark though, she gives plaintive yelps!

    I had no problem until last year when became very anxious and chewy whenever I left the house. Luckily she confined her chewing to anything soft, like her toys and my duvet ... I came home one day to find her pulling out all the feathers ... what a mess!

    I spent hours thinking about how I was going to cure her and I did much the same as you're doing with Sophie (my daughter in laws name) except I don't have a back door. It's exhausting! I found that picking up my car keys, getting the car out, and opening the gates acted as a trigger so I make sure I do all that long before I leave the house so as to give her plenty of time to calm down. Before I leave I make coffee, sit quietly with both dogs ... then GO! So far it's worked well. Apart from that I've had no problems with her.

    She's SO easy to train and at the moment we're working on my "help mum" project. She already knows how to stand so I can use her back to help me get up, and how to hold my arm in her mouth and pull gently. She's getting good at guideing me down slopes, pulling me up steep ones and helping me across ditches. Today we've started on "find the way home" which means we go to somewhere we've haven't been to before and she has to lead Chloe and me home.

    M'boi's such a treasure .. I've never owned a dog quite like her ... she's so in tune with me and seems to instintively know what she should do.
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    I forgot to add, if you what to know about the latest research into Shar-Pei go to:

    http://www.wvc.vetsuite.com

    which is Dr Linda Tintle's site.
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    Its so distressing isn't it as you know they are not happy and you have to work out some way of placating them. I'm trying her on valerian capsules in the hope they will help along with the retraining. I don't know if they are why she's been so chilled out this weekend about the fireworks sounding like a warzone. She was a bit unsettled at first, but as she has seen both me and the TM not reacting, she's quite relaxed about it. She's still her normal self and wrestling with the TM, so I don't know.

    We're working on the down command right now and she's picked it up in 2-3 days. I've stepped up with training as an outlet for her energy and hoping it will build her trust in me even further and help her relax. Her 'wait' when I put her dinner down is superb and she looks intently into my eyes until I give her the okay and point at her dinner.

    I have to laugh, because neither of us wanted this breed in the first place, yet look at us. :lol:

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    I have been looking to add a shar pei to our house hold and spoke to a breeder today about a up coming litter , his stud dog was black and his dam was lilic but i was looking at getting a red one is there any chance this pair will produce red in the litter ?
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    It depends what colours are behind the sire and dam, but if you want a red one, why not look at a breeder who breeds reds and fawns? Maybe check out more than one breeder and preferably visit them before you commit to buying a puppy from them.

    Are you set on a puppy? There are many youg dogs in breed rescue and a lot are well behaved dogs there through no fault of their own.

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